Again giving is free willed.
Originally Posted by Athanasius
You are creating compulsion, this is not in line with scripture..
Matthew 25 has nothing to do with oppressed Jews, e.g. Christ never refers to Jewish believers as his 'brothers' (as you claim in post #140, to Slug), and if anything the section has to do with the response of nations towards Jesus and his followers.
Yet in Matthew 12..
48 And he answering said to him who spake to him, `Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?'
49 And having stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, he said, `Lo, my mother and my brethren!
50 for whoever may do the will of my Father who is in the heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.'
Perhaps it is Gods will they are in that situation they are in.
That's very American of you, but non-sequitur. That you ought
to provide food for the hungry (e.g. you ought to give food to someone about to die of starvation), does not entail that the hungry have a right to your food. Or maybe it does, and the free-market is more beastly than Marxism ever was.
Once again you are creating compulsion on what some one else does with their labor.
In freedom, I have a right to do with my fruits as I see fit.
If not then why should I create fruit... if it is just going to be eaten by some one else ?
Paul is speaking to fellow Christians, first of all. And the warning against 'idleness' is primarily directed at fellow
Christians. It's great when people with disabilities work (why should they be praised?), no one is saying otherwise, and no one is saying that people should refuse to work and expect handouts every week. And again, you're generalizing. We're talking about actual people in need, while you can't seem to get your mind off of welfare-system abusers.
Not a generalization, with a RECORD number on food stamps and a record number of people thinking other people who work owe them a living.
Love them... share the gospel.... is not God able to help those who call on him?
And? If such a person were starving, or in need of medical attention, or in need of clothes, you would stand over them and say, 'Oh well, you had opportunities'? Not everyone is poor for reasons they had control over, and just because someone had control over some aspects of their lives, doesn't mean they don't need help; and Jesus' commands to love everyone as one loves themselves don't stop at 'you had opportunities / you messed your life up'.
He provides for the birds and the beasts.
He is more than able to bless those who seek him with food and shelter.
Or is God just a name in the sky, where it is the hustling of believers that are really the driving force?
There has been many times he has provided for me.. why cant all these poor people be provided for in the same manner as I have?
I will tell you why.. they reject truth and follow a lie.. therefore many are under his judgement.
We have a living God..
Historically there have been similar positions. People are poor because their ancestors sinned. People are poor because God doesn't favor them.
Why is it your thinking acts as if it all depends on you to run out and right all the wrongs and stuff all the empty tummies?
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
If they turn to truth, God will provide
...and if God will not provide for them when they reject truth... why should I?
He transcends all ancestors and favors to those who turn to the truth.
Yet your focus is on men hustling around with pots of food running after the poor people, there is no dependence on Christ for any of the out look you promote.
It is human carnal action over faith and trust in God, therefore a carnal distraction.
1 peter 5
6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.