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    Unemployment rate down to 4.5%........

    ..... in my home province of Saskatchewan. Can't get enough tradesmen, 2 month wait to do my siding. Anyone, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHL Fever View Post
    ..... in my home province of Saskatchewan. Can't get enough tradesmen, 2 month wait to do my siding. Anyone, anyone?
    I believe 4% unemployment is considered full employment.

    Maybe I should move out there and get into the potash or uranium business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHL Fever View Post
    ..... in my home province of Saskatchewan. Can't get enough tradesmen, 2 month wait to do my siding. Anyone, anyone?
    I have two solutions to your problem:

    1) Start training more young people coming out of high school for specific trades

    2) Take obama and liberal dems in congress off our hands

    This latter option will ensure high unemployment, which should then give you numerous offers to do the work. And while your country is not my country, in the spirit of international cooperation, I'd like to propose option number two if you please.


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    I second that notion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyCall View Post
    I have two solutions to your problem:

    1) Start training more young people coming out of high school for specific trades

    2) Take obama and liberal dems in congress off our hands

    This latter option will ensure high unemployment, which should then give you numerous offers to do the work. And while your country is not my country, in the spirit of international cooperation, I'd like to propose option number two if you please.
    Obama and Co. are probably still to the right of our own conservatives.
    It is only the cynic who claims “to speak the truth” at all times and in all places to all men in the same way, but who, in fact, displays nothing but a lifeless image of the truth… He dons the halo of the fanatical devotee of truth who can make no allowance for human weaknesses; but, in fact, he is destroying the living truth between men. He wounds shame, desecrates mystery, breaks confidence, betrays the community in which he lives, and laughs arrogantly at the devastation he has wrought and at the human weakness which “cannot bear the truth”. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in Ethics.


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    I'll be glad to do the job, which side do you want covered, and do you worry about adverse shadows? I give cheaper rates if I can abuse your tools and your supplies; even cheaper if you supply the labor...
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    Re: Unemployment rate down to 4.5%........

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyCall View Post
    I have two solutions to your problem:

    1) Start training more young people coming out of high school for specific trades

    2) Take obama and liberal dems in congress off our hands

    This latter option will ensure high unemployment, which should then give you numerous offers to do the work. And while your country is not my country, in the spirit of international cooperation, I'd like to propose option number two if you please.
    lol no thanks those guys have few marketable skills, can't trust them to apply the siding properly. Also they take too many coffee breaks and talk too much. Plus I have a general aversion to lawyers, which I think pretty much make up 80% of congress.

    Yes I like the training idea, too many high school grads overlook the trades which seem to have very steady work!

    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    I believe 4% unemployment is considered full employment.
    Maybe I should move out there and get into the potash or uranium business.
    Ha yes it is all about potash.

    Also the Bakken formation, anywhere it touches has insta-jobs. We had low unemployment before things started up there, but now even lower.

    http://bakkenshale.net/bakkenshalemap.html

    PS stop being silly and buy more oil from us, get that pipeline going!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHL Fever View Post
    PS stop being silly and buy more oil from us, get that pipeline going!
    We're working on that. Check with us after November.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    Obama and Co. are probably still to the right of our own conservatives.
    Is that possible? That is frightening! Oh, but hey, are they as nuts? Have you ever listened to the things pelosi says? The woman is batty and a simpleton.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NHL Fever View Post
    lol no thanks those guys have few marketable skills, can't trust them to apply the siding properly. Also they take too many coffee breaks and talk too much. Plus I have a general aversion to lawyers, which I think pretty much make up 80% of congress.

    Yes I like the training idea, too many high school grads overlook the trades which seem to have very steady work!



    Ha yes it is all about potash.

    Also the Bakken formation, anywhere it touches has insta-jobs. We had low unemployment before things started up there, but now even lower.

    http://bakkenshale.net/bakkenshalemap.html

    PS stop being silly and buy more oil from us, get that pipeline going!
    I just saw a special earlier this week on Fox News about how we too need far more skilled blue collar labor in this nation. Of course obama is pushing for everyone to go to college and wants the rest of us to foot the bill. He is so in touch with reality and all. He just wants us to go deeper in debt and become more beholden to the government.

    As for that pipeline, indeed I wish we would buy more oil from you guys. I'd rather you got our money and we got your oil than the arabs and some other nations that hate us. But once more obama and some other dems want to do everything wrong and nothing right when it comes to oil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyCall View Post
    Is that possible? That is frightening! Oh, but hey, are they as nuts? Have you ever listened to the things pelosi says? The woman is batty and a simpleton.
    We've got plenty of odd-balls I'm sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyCall View Post
    I just saw a special earlier this week on Fox News about how we too need far more skilled blue collar labor in this nation. Of course obama is pushing for everyone to go to college and wants the rest of us to foot the bill. He is so in touch with reality and all. He just wants us to go deeper in debt and become more beholden to the government.
    Unfortunately even here, I've heard in the past (maybe it's changed now) is that many of the trades businesses weren't accepting apprentices because it 'cost to much'. Short-sighted of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyCall View Post
    As for that pipeline, indeed I wish we would buy more oil from you guys. I'd rather you got our money and we got your oil than the arabs and some other nations that hate us. But once more obama and some other dems want to do everything wrong and nothing right when it comes to oil.
    Most of your oil already comes from us. Mot much US domestic supply is actually sourced from the Middle East (I think its Canada/Mexico, Venezuela, etc.). Regardless the point is taken. The pipeline from the oilsands is certainly not dead yet, but there is plently of opposition on both sides of the border.
    It is only the cynic who claims “to speak the truth” at all times and in all places to all men in the same way, but who, in fact, displays nothing but a lifeless image of the truth… He dons the halo of the fanatical devotee of truth who can make no allowance for human weaknesses; but, in fact, he is destroying the living truth between men. He wounds shame, desecrates mystery, breaks confidence, betrays the community in which he lives, and laughs arrogantly at the devastation he has wrought and at the human weakness which “cannot bear the truth”. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in Ethics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    We've got plenty of odd-balls I'm sure.

    Unfortunately even here, I've heard in the past (maybe it's changed now) is that many of the trades businesses weren't accepting apprentices because it 'cost to much'. Short-sighted of course.

    Most of your oil already comes from us. Mot much US domestic supply is actually sourced from the Middle East (I think its Canada/Mexico, Venezuela, etc.). Regardless the point is taken. The pipeline from the oilsands is certainly not dead yet, but there is plently of opposition on both sides of the border.
    I hadn't heard about opposition on your side to the pipeline, but I find no surprise in it. Oh yes, I knew we get most of our oil from you, but Venezuela and the arabs and some other nations we draw from too. Of course it's a world market commodity, but still, you guys are good neighbors and friends and I'd rather get it all from you - less what we can provide for ourselves. Of course if we drilled for more we'd sell a good bit of it off to other nations, which would not be entirely negative.

    It does seem short-sighted to not take apprentices if help is needed. Training is costly, but it is also a part of doing business. But if there are enough workers to fill the positions, then that option becomes less desirable.

    As for you having oddballs on your side of the border, I'm sure that is true. They seem to turn up anywhere sanity is trying to survive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EarlyCall View Post
    I hadn't heard about opposition on your side to the pipeline, but I find no surprise in it. Oh yes, I knew we get most of our oil from you, but Venezuela and the arabs and some other nations we draw from too. Of course it's a world market commodity, but still, you guys are good neighbors and friends and I'd rather get it all from you - less what we can provide for ourselves. Of course if we drilled for more we'd sell a good bit of it off to other nations, which would not be entirely negative.
    Believe me there is huge opposition to the extraction of oil from the Athabasca tar sands which would be the source of the Keystone XL. The pipeline is simply a part of that whole opposition. I admit, there are legitimate environmental concerns around the extraction of tar sands. The other debate up here is about another pipeline to move oil to the Pacific through BC, but that is also subject to enormous environment and social opposition (in fact many US based environmental foundations have been quietly supporting local groups, although I don't know if it's really significant).
    It is only the cynic who claims “to speak the truth” at all times and in all places to all men in the same way, but who, in fact, displays nothing but a lifeless image of the truth… He dons the halo of the fanatical devotee of truth who can make no allowance for human weaknesses; but, in fact, he is destroying the living truth between men. He wounds shame, desecrates mystery, breaks confidence, betrays the community in which he lives, and laughs arrogantly at the devastation he has wrought and at the human weakness which “cannot bear the truth”. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in Ethics.


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    Ya there is some opposition here, but much more to the gateway pipeline (going through BC forest and reservations) than the Keystone XL. For keystone there seems to be more opposition in the US oddly enough.

    Those pipelines are both for tar sands oil though. The Bakken formation is shale oil, and its potential is really only recently being realized. Saskatchewan and North Dakota are the main beneficiaries. ND unemployment rate is 3%, lowest in the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHL Fever View Post
    Ya there is some opposition here, but much more to the gateway pipeline (going through BC forest and reservations) than the Keystone XL. For keystone there seems to be more opposition in the US oddly enough.
    I have a feeling it is mainly related to the tar sands themselves, not the pipelines as such. I think there has also been concern in some US states over worries of potential contamination of aquifers, but I could be mistaken.
    It is only the cynic who claims “to speak the truth” at all times and in all places to all men in the same way, but who, in fact, displays nothing but a lifeless image of the truth… He dons the halo of the fanatical devotee of truth who can make no allowance for human weaknesses; but, in fact, he is destroying the living truth between men. He wounds shame, desecrates mystery, breaks confidence, betrays the community in which he lives, and laughs arrogantly at the devastation he has wrought and at the human weakness which “cannot bear the truth”. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in Ethics.


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