Boycott of Chick-Fil-A

[TomH]

Just as a side note, when the Lord touched my heart by using an old friend of mine, my friend didn't try to convince me how sinful I was, he merely pointed out how much God loved me. That more than anything else is what touched my heart. I wonder why we now think the methods that worked for us, can't work on others.

Exactly!

Growing up in a hellfire and brimstone environment never "scared the hell out of me".

But the Good News made me fall in love.

[-SEEKING-]

An article worth reading: http://jewishworldreview.com/0812/ahlert.php3

Interesting read. Thank you for sharing.

[keck553]

Do you have a NT reference specifically showing when a Christian should seek out a nonchristian with the express purpose of pointing out their sin?

If we are to go into the world to give the Good News, show me the Scripture that states the Good News must be secondary to pointing to the unbelievers sins.

As has been stated, hellfire and brimstone should be reserved for the Christian, and then as a way of expressing the importance of the commandment for spreading the Good News.

Once an unbeliever believes, hell will become real to them. Until that point, hell to the unbeliever is no more real than God.

It's the old cart before the horse. You don't make hell real in order to convince someone there is a Savior.

Sorry, I don't skip over all the instances of the word "repent" in my Bible. Good news is only good news if it follows bad news.

As to the Jonah reference, you'll have to argue that one out with Jesus..He spoke of Jonah. I suppose you would advise Jesus to burn his Bible too? After all, His Bible was all that "old, obsolete stuff", right?

I guess Paul, like Jonah also wasted his time preaching repentance to idol worshipping gentiles. Wow.

Honestly, I don't know much about your theology, nor do I care to. My God is unchanging.

[TomH]

You'll have to argue that one out with Jesus..He spoke of Jonah. I suppose you would advise Jesus to burn his Bible then? After all, His Bible was all that "old, obsolete stuff", right?

I guess Paul also wasted his time preaching repentance to idol worshipping gentiles. Wow.

Honestly, I don't know much about your theology, nor do I care to. My God is unchanging.

Best non answer of the week.

[keck553]

Best non answer of the week.

I'm sorry, I ran out of cotton candy.

[TomH]

I'm sorry, I ran out of cotton candy.

Yup, and all you have left is air on a stick.

Try the BBQ ribs. More meat.

[Vhayes]

Please. Knock it off.

[Liquid Tension]

[tango]

She was repentant. When Jesus said "Go and sin no more" she understood her sin.

How does Jesus deal with unrepentant sinners? In Matthew 23 what does Jesus say to the hypocritical Pharisees? He curses them with some of the most colorful language in the Bible.

The Pharisees were people who claimed the authority to lead and teach others, despite being up to their eyes in their own issues. The problem was the hypocrisy.

Look at the way Jesus dealt with those who chose not to follow, like the rich man who didn't want to sell all he had and give the money to the poor. He went away and Jesus let him go.

[tango]

For what its worth, I spent most of my life as a non-Christian (so far). Fire and brimstone never impressed me. I thought it was lame. Any why not? I didn't believe in hell anyway.

When Jesus did come knocking, I looked back at those who had made an impression on me. A single handful of people who had sewn a seed; something I hardly noticed. So what made those people different? They lived as if they really believed what they said they believed. To put it as succinctly as possible, they lived more for others than themselves. It isn’t the righteousness that gets noticed; it’s the selflessness.

I was not saved by anything anyone said or did. But in a mysterious way, those witnesses played an important role. Perhaps without them I would never have listened.

I can identify with this. I had a lot of people using lots of words to tell me how I needed Jesus and what the Bible said about stuff. At the time I regarded the Bible as being an interesting piece of literature but of no more significance than Moby Dick so their words were mostly wasted, especially when they talked of love but showed precious little of it. What had a lot more impact was one friend in particular who barely spoke a word about love, because he didn't need to. The way he lived his life spoke louder than any words he could ever have uttered.

[keck553]

Yup, and all you have left is air on a stick.

Try the BBQ ribs. More meat.

For those who disregard 2/3rds of the Bible:

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

[TomH]

Sorry, I don't skip over all the instances of the word "repent" in my Bible. Good news is only good news if it follows bad news.

Honestly, I don't know much about your theology, nor do I care to. My God is unchanging.

Good news is only good news if it follows bad news???

Well, now I'm beginning to understand a little more about YOUR theology and why it was never quite right according to MY theology.

A few people (very few) must reach the bottom of humanity before they finally look up for a Savior. Yes, they have discovered the bad news.

The majority of the people, myself included, were fairly happy in their ignorance. Convinced that, even if at times things weren't that great, that, with luck and hard work, life will get better. It was up to ME to make my own happiness.
People are constantly being told to "take responsibility" for their actions. Life is only as good as YOU make it.

You're preaching the cart before the horse.

Only AFTER someone receives the GOOD NEWS, can they realize that there was ever bad news at all.

Only after a person finds what is, can they realize what was.

Turn to God out of love for God.

Somehow I get the impression that you're preaching that a person should turn to God out of fear for the devil.

[keck553]

Good news is only good news if it follows bad news???

Well, now I'm beginning to understand a little more about YOUR theology and why it was never quite right according to MY theology.

A few people (very few) must reach the bottom of humanity before they finally look up for a Savior. Yes, they have discovered the bad news.

The majority of the people, myself included, were fairly happy in their ignorance. Convinced that, even if at times things weren't that great, that, with luck and hard work, life will get better. It was up to ME to make my own happiness.
People are constantly being told to "take responsibility" for their actions. Life is only as good as YOU make it.

You're preaching the cart before the horse.

Only AFTER someone receives the GOOD NEWS, can they realize that there was ever bad news at all.

Only after a person finds what is, can they realize what was.

Turn to God out of love for God.

Somehow I get the impression that you're preaching that a person should turn to God out of fear for the devil.

I'm sorry, I am not interested in your teachings. Thank you.

I'm gonna read Jonah again. Then purchase some Chic-fil-A gifts cards for a friend. Good day sir.

[TomH]

I'm sorry, I am not interested in your teachings. Thank you.

I'm gonna read Jonah again. Then purchase some Chic-fil-A gifts cards for a friend. Good day sir.

You're welcome.
And just as a side not:

I usually post to the board (members). What you think of me is none of my business.

[keck553]

You're welcome.
And just as a side not:

I usually post to the board (members). What you think of me is none of my business.

Have a great day!