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    The City of Philly Making Persecution Legal

    And so it begins. Philly is drafting a resolution condemning Chick Fill Fil A as hateful bigots and sending them away. What in God's name just happened here? http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ick-fil-a.html
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    And so it begins. Philly is drafting a resolution condemning Chick Fill Fil A as hateful bigots and sending them away. What in God's name just happened here? http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ick-fil-a.html
    If you ever wonder how it could happen that Christians are unable to buy or sell, this is how it starts.
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    “To preserve the government we must also preserve morals. Morality rests on religion; if you destroy the foundation, the superstructure must fall. When the public mind becomes vitiated and corrupt, laws are a nullity and constitutions are waste paper.” – Daniel Webster, 4th of July, 1800, Oration at Hanover, N.H.

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    Re: The City of Philly Making Persecution Legal

    It can't/won't happen.

    Even the dreaded ACLU says so:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/aclu...discrimination

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    Yes sir, Rev Logos.
    It's crazy to see this happening.
    This is nothing more than bullying and yes folks it's tantamount to persecution. They've been so blinded by the fear of picking on gays that now they pick on anyone who disagrees with their view of the gay lifestyle.


    Matthew 5:10 blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    I think we've forgotten that persecution isn't just about who your God is, but it is also about standing for righteousness in the Name of your God.

    They act as though we are hatemongers because of these beliefs. We didn't make up these beliefs, God did. Therefore we are not free to change our beliefs with every wind that blows through this world simply because modern people changed the way they believe. We don't just believe IN God... We BELIEVE Him and we submit to Him. That's what it means to be a Christian. It's easier to just go with the flow but God says we are to go with Him regardless of where the flow leads. Where He goes I will follow, I hope we will all have the courage to follow Him, even when things get uglier toward us Christians.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggindeeper View Post
    You CANNOT rightly divide the word by plucking out ONE verse to prove a theory you devised! You just can't do that. If I adhered to your way of interpreting scripture, then I promise you I can show you a verse that will PROVE Jesus was the head of a gang of horse thieves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saved7 View Post
    Yes sir.
    It's crazy to see this happening.
    This is nothing more than bullying and yes folks it's tantamount to persecution. They've been so blinded by the fear of picking on gays that now they pick on anyone who disagrees with their view of the gay lifestyle.


    Matthew 5:10 blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    I think we've forgotten that persecution isn't just about who your God is, but it is also about standing for righteousness in the Name of your God.

    They act as though we are hatemongers because of these beliefs. We didn't make up these beliefs, God did. Therefore we are not free to change our beliefs with every wind that blows through this world simply because modern people changed the way they believe. We don't just believe IN God... We BELIEVE Him and we submit to Him. That's what it means to be a Christian. It's easier to just go with the flow but God says we are to go with Him regardless of where the flow leads. Where He goes I will follow, I hope we will all have the courage to follow Him, even when things get uglier toward us Christians.
    This is just the birth of a movement. Like gay marraige in the 1970's, most will say "ain't gonna happen in Philly." That's probably true - for now. But these immoral lawless leftists will pick away and pick away at this until one day banning Christians from doing business just for being Christians will be presented as common sense measures, as post modernism differs with an unchanging God. What's worse, a lot of churches will enter into the fold of moral relatism. That's already happening. We see some of those post modernist views expressed here. From people who claim to follow God. But this was prophecied. The church age is winding down. False prophets are coming out of the woodwork like ants. It's coming. I see a time where Christians who hold to the Word will have to go underground, and all we'll see of Christianity publically is a watered down cotton candy Gospel where Jesus is just some nice guy pursuing social justice. People don't mind that. It's coming.

    But then so is the real Jesus. The One with the sword.

    Blessed are those who endure to the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhayes View Post
    It can't/won't happen.

    Even the dreaded ACLU says so:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/aclu...discrimination
    I'm glad to see this.
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    You CANNOT rightly divide the word by plucking out ONE verse to prove a theory you devised! You just can't do that. If I adhered to your way of interpreting scripture, then I promise you I can show you a verse that will PROVE Jesus was the head of a gang of horse thieves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    This is just the birth of a movement. Like gay marraige in the 1970's, most will say "ain't gonna happen in Philly." That's probably true - for now. But these immoral lawless leftists will pick away and pick away at this until one day banning Christians from doing business just for being Christians will be presented as common sense measures. It's coming.
    The crazy part is they don't understand just how easy they are making it for the muslims to come in and take over. These leftists are laying the ground work, and once the Christian is silenced, who will have the courage to stop the muslim "extremists" from using violence to bring them into submission to allah?
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggindeeper View Post
    You CANNOT rightly divide the word by plucking out ONE verse to prove a theory you devised! You just can't do that. If I adhered to your way of interpreting scripture, then I promise you I can show you a verse that will PROVE Jesus was the head of a gang of horse thieves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saved7 View Post
    The crazy part is they don't understand just how easy they are making it for the muslims to come in and take over. These leftists are laying the ground work, and once the Christian is silenced, who will have the courage to stop the muslim "extremists" from using violence to bring them into submission to allah?
    Leftists won't like Muslims either. Muslims are just a tool for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    Leftists won't like Muslims either. Muslims are just a tool for them.
    Exactly, but what the leftists don't realize is that they are a tool for the muslims too. And the left will be afraid of the muslims, which will work toward the end goal of the muslims. The left isn't afraid of us, which is why it's so easy for them to try and railroad us.
    The muslims are being patient and letting the left lay the ground work for them. I've read and heard conversations between muslims about how they love the left for this very reason. But the left refuses to believe that.
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    You CANNOT rightly divide the word by plucking out ONE verse to prove a theory you devised! You just can't do that. If I adhered to your way of interpreting scripture, then I promise you I can show you a verse that will PROVE Jesus was the head of a gang of horse thieves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhayes View Post
    It can't/won't happen.

    Even the dreaded ACLU says so:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/aclu...discrimination
    If the progressive left were successful in getting this so called "People's Rights Amendment" passed (on another thread), Chick-fil-a could, as a corporation, be legally and constitutionally destroyed, since none of the Bill of Rights would apply to it.

    At any rate, I expected this would die out quickly after the ACLU and every other relevant group came out and said the obvious. But it appears both Philly and San Francisco may continue to press this.

    Its staggering the fear and intolerance being projected. As the Bible says, we should get used to it.

    Mat 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.

    Rom 12:14 Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevLogos View Post
    If the progressive left were successful in getting this so called "People's Rights Amendment" passed (on another thread), Chick-fil-a could, as a corporation, be legally and constitutionally destroyed, since none of the Bill of Rights would apply to it.

    At any rate, I expected this would die out quickly after the ACLU and every other relevant group came out and said the obvious. But it appears both Philly and San Francisco may continue to press this.

    Its staggering the fear and intolerance being projected. As the Bible says, we should get used to it.

    Mat 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to them.

    Rom 12:14 Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse.
    i thought the people's rights amendment said that corporations were not people. I happen to agree with that.

    The man who owns the fast food company can do anything he wants to with his product. No argument from me. People also have that same right to either buy or not buy his product. It appears people are flocking (no pun intended) to his stores.

    Chicago can't stop him from being there - he's ALREADY there, in the airport no less. Same with Philadelphia and San Francisco. The chain may fail in San Francisco but I would guess it will thrive in other cities. Ain't that America though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saved7 View Post
    I'm glad to see this.
    Did you edit this post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saved7 View Post
    The crazy part is they don't understand just how easy they are making it for the muslims to come in and take over. These leftists are laying the ground work, and once the Christian is silenced, who will have the courage to stop the muslim "extremists" from using violence to bring them into submission to allah?
    The truth of the matter is that while leftists can be vocal and rioteous, they scurry like scared rats when confronted with physical force. Something Muslims aren't afraid to employ.

    So yaeh, they are digging their own grave. Funny thing is, everyone knows it but them.
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    Re: The City of Philly Making Persecution Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Vhayes View Post
    Did you edit this post?
    yes...I didn't like how I responded. It came off snotty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Diggindeeper View Post
    You CANNOT rightly divide the word by plucking out ONE verse to prove a theory you devised! You just can't do that. If I adhered to your way of interpreting scripture, then I promise you I can show you a verse that will PROVE Jesus was the head of a gang of horse thieves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhayes View Post
    i thought the people's rights amendment said that corporations were not people. I happen to agree with that.
    That isn't really what it says. It says the rights guaranteed by the constitution and Bill of Rights does not apply to corporations, LLCs, or any corporate entity such as non-profits, charities, newspapers, most religious organizations, etc.

    It means that a company like Chick-fil-a, or even a church, or even the ACLU, has no right so speak. It is not protected against unreasonable search and seizure, eminent domain, etc. There is no right to trial or due process. Corporate owned property could be seized without compensation if the regime in charge doesn't like it. So even though the first amendment protects our right to peaceably assemble, that assembly has no rights.
    In Christ,

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