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    Wat is die woord...

    ...ek is op soek na 'n woord wat beteken/beskryf rofesie reeds vervul is en in die proses van vervulling is en wat nog steeds vervul moet word..Is daar so 'n woord?
    Nie Eskatologie nie, want dit beteken net die dinge van die Eindtye.
    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Hi Ta-An,

    Meen jy dalk soos Preterisme, Futurisme en so?

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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the South View Post
    Hi Ta-An,

    Meen jy dalk soos Preterisme, Futurisme en so?
    Is Preterism en futurism dan deel van die sambreel van Eskatologie??
    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ta-An View Post
    Is Preterism en futurism dan deel van die sambreel van Eskatologie??
    Wel, soos ek dit verstaan is eskatologie deel van die sambreel van profesie en Preterisme, historisisme, futurisme en idealisme is maniere om profesie te interpreteer.

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    Ek stem vir Futurisme !

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    Ek glo dat profesie gedeeltelik vervul word/is, as voorbeeld van hoe dit gaan wees, en dan uiteindelik volkome vervul sal word. Is daar 'n woord vir só mengsel? (Nee, Fila, deurmekaar is nie die woord wat ek soek nie.)

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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the South View Post
    Ek glo dat profesie gedeeltelik vervul word/is, as voorbeeld van hoe dit gaan wees, en dan uiteindelik volkome vervul sal word. Is daar 'n woord vir só mengsel? (Nee, Fila, deurmekaar is nie die woord wat ek soek nie.)
    Ja, Fila...... moenie ons deurmekaar maak nie
    Profesie, vervul en sal nog vervul word.... = ??

    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Eskatologie dui op die dinge van die einde. Daar is egter 'n sin waarin Jesus se eerste koms en sy werk op aarde reeds as die eskatologies verstaan kan word.

    Soek 'n 'n teologiese term of net 'n term wat beskryf dat profesie effektief is oor die verlede, hede en toekoms?

    Tydlose profesie?
    Profesie wat staan in 'n eskatologiese spanning?
    Joh 8:32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Quote Originally Posted by Philip dT View Post

    Soek 'n 'n teologiese term of net 'n term wat beskryf dat profesie effektief is oor die verlede, hede en toekoms?

    Dit wat die volgende beskryf:
    God wat by ons Sy woning maak deur die inwoning van die Heilige Gees, maar ook by ons SY woning sal maak met Sy wederkoms.
    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    God's timeless presence.
    God's omnipresence.

    Soek jy 'n kort Engelse uitdrukking om op 'n lappie te borduur, of waarvoor wil jy dit gebruik?
    Joh 8:32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip dT View Post
    God's timeless presence.
    God's omnipresence.

    Soek jy 'n kort Engelse uitdrukking om op 'n lappie te borduur, of waarvoor wil jy dit gebruik?
    Ta-An,
    Wat van 'n afkorting om moeite te spaar ? In plaas van iets soos "God wat by ons Sy woning maak deur die inwoning van die Heilige Gees, maar ook by ons SY woning sal maak met Sy wederkoms", wat 'n vreeslike lang lappie gaan wees, kan jy net GwboSwmddivdHg borduur, en dit elke keer 'n besprekingspunt maak as iemand kom kuier.






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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    O julle!!

    Julle is dan altyd so oulik met groot woorde wat ek nie verstaan nie, nou gee ek die betekenis, wat is die woord
    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ta-An View Post
    O julle!!

    Julle is dan altyd so oulik met groot woorde wat ek nie verstaan nie, nou gee ek die betekenis, wat is die woord
    Proleptiese openbaring.
    Joh 8:32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip dT View Post
    Proleptiese openbaring.
    As in : prochronism
    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Re: Wat is die woord...

    Nie heeltemal dieselfde nie.

    'n Prochronisme is 'n soort anachronisme, om te sê: "Moses het vir Aaron op sy selfoon geskakel."

    'n Proleptiese openbaring is 'n voortydige openbaring van iets wat eintlik vir later bedoel is. Christus se dood en opstanding is prolepties van God se eskatologiese openbaring (eindopenbaring). Chrisus se eerste koms lei dus reeds die eindtyd in (prolepties), maar die finale vervulling van alles lê nog in die toekoms.
    Joh 8:32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

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