Evil

[Colight]

Evil is often a distortion of doctrine or a distortion of the laws of divine establishment.
In which man seeks to solve his problems thru man or man made solutions with out God or man works in the name of God for these solutions..


We are told..
1 Thess. 5:22, "Abstain from every form of Evil.”

Evil is Satan's system by which he administers the ruler-ship of this world.

Through Evil, Satan brings about two major con-sequences on earth: sin and human good (the motivation of Evil), both of which are based on errors in thinking.

The sin of self-righteousness combined with human good or sincerity produces a saturation of Evil in a nation.

One of the main reasons for learning about Evil is to learn that man cannot solve his problems by human solutions. We are to turn to God and doctrine for solutions,, not man.

Examples of Evil,,

• Altruistic humanitarianism
• Philanthropy
• Religion
• Legalism
• Reversionism
• Socialism
• Political internationalism
• Government interference
• Distortion of the law
• Bribery in government
• Reducing the military
• Sociology
• Public welfare




The whole idea of government or the church trying to abolish sickness, mental illness, economic problems, frustrations, and human problems by legislation and human solutions is Evil.

For the Christian there ware two ways of thinking..

There are two ways of thinking:

• Divine viewpoint is thinking doctrine, which glorifies Christ.
• Human viewpoint is thinking Evil, which dishonors Christ.

For example
Sincere do gooders are the major practitioners of Evil.
The more involved you are in sincere human good crusades, the more you intensify your Evil.

The worlds problems can not be solved other than thru learning and using bible doctrine and laws of divine establishment to solve them by other means is acting on Evil.

Evil will bring about punishment from God..for leaving the path.

Prov 2:11-13,

11 Discretion will guard you,
Understanding will watch over you,
12 To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things;
13 From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;


The wise sees the Evil and hides himself, but the fool goes on and is punished for it.

I think there are many Christians today who are not wise when it comes to what evil really is.

[Indueseason]

Could you supply the scriptures that show your examples of evil?

blessings to you

[grandma dolittle]

For example
Sincere do gooders are the major practitioners of Evil.
The more involved you are in sincere human good crusades, the more you intensify your Evil.

What good crusades are you talking about? You are painting with a broad brush when you say "sincere do gooders are the major practioners of Evil".

grandma

[Colight]

Could you supply the scriptures that show your examples of evil?

blessings to you

For example
Sincere do gooders are the major practitioners of Evil.
The more involved you are in sincere human good crusades, the more you intensify your Evil.

What good crusades are you talking about? You are painting with a broad brush when you say "sincere do gooders are the major practioners of Evil".

grandma

They thru HUMAN effort are trying to improve the devils kingdom.

Evil is satans plan to devise a system to oppose God



Then holding up that which they have done thru human effort as something righteous.

Isa 64:6

6 For all of us have become like one who is unclean,
And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment;
And all of us wither like a leaf,
And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

People have their focus shifted from Christ onto the efforts of man.

You do not need Christ to provide for you, you have government or Religious run homeless shelters. They will provide all your needs...



Another example.
You dont need Christ to provide for you, government will just take away from the RICH people and then you will be provided for. Government is your Christ, they will right all the wrongs!!

Another example
God can not take care of the earth, we need to fight global warming.. Science is mans savior it will give us eternal life !!

The Goal of Evil ( The doctrine of Satan ) is to promote the glorification and deification of mankind while downgrading the Lord Jesus Christ.

This started in the garden with Eve.. and she was hooked right away...

gen 3
5 For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise,

And what was the first thing wise people who just rebelled against God DID?

Covered their nakedness!!!!

A act of morality that most Christians today would agree with.
Their first act was one to try and improve their state they was in.

7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.


Satan’s is devoted to distorting or obscuring any truth related to Christ.
Therefore if he can get people on some moral crusade rather than bible class, he has won.
IF Satan can get the believers.. feeding the down trodden or out fighting some perceived wrong..
Satan has a hoot in heaven..
Look God what your believers are doing now!!
They do not trust Christ to handle things.. my look at how they are doing.. ..I bet Satan has a great laugh now days.


2 Cor. 4:3,4 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


We are warned, ONLY doctrine.. Not our human heart or way of thinking is the path..

Believers are often led into Evil by their Christian friends.


2 Thess. 3

2 and that we will be rescued from perverse and evil men; for not all have faith.3 But the Lord is faithful, and He will strengthen and protect you from the evil one.

Matt 15:9 'But in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the precepts ( thinking ) of men.'"

This evil is what is occurring in the Churches today.. the thinking of man rather than the doctrine of Christ is being taught.

[Indueseason]

That is just an arrogant, judgemental mess( bible warns about that too ) I asked you for scriptures that tells me that each of these things are evil.

• Altruistic humanitarianism
• Philanthropy
• Religion
• Legalism
• Reversionism
• Socialism
• Political internationalism
• Government interference
• Distortion of the law
• Bribery in government
• Reducing the military
• Sociology
• Public welfare

So far I'm only getting a prideful opinion.

blessings to you

[andrew_no_one]

Are you saying that doing "good" such as caring for widows and orphans can be done with no regard to Christ, thus done in vanity?

[Colight]

Are you saying that doing "good" such as caring for widows and orphans can be done with no regard to Christ, thus done in vanity?

If Done by the flesh or the comic system.

Remember Satan does not want widows and orphans with out care too.
For that can be something that would show a flaw in his system.

So if he can turn caring for widows and orphans into a belief where man handles all they need and there is no mention of God..
And if he can get Christians to support it, for after all it is doing good..
Soon Christians are running around caring for the downtrodden and ignoring bible class as part of their Christian service.

We would have what we call today as welfare, which is evil.

[Colight]

That is just an arrogant, judgemental mess( bible warns about that too ) I asked you for scriptures that tells me that each of these things are evil.

• Altruistic humanitarianism
• Philanthropy
• Religion
• Legalism
• Reversionism
• Socialism
• Political internationalism
• Government interference
• Distortion of the law
• Bribery in government
• Reducing the military
• Sociology
• Public welfare

So far I'm only getting a prideful opinion.

blessings to you

We are to fix our eyes on Christ..not on man for the solution of lifes problems.

Heb 12:2
2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith,...

Any Good deeds we do is considered filth to God, especially deeds done in the cosmic system as opposed to the divine system.


As Stated

Isa 64:6

6 For all of us have become like one who is unclean,
And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment;
And all of us wither like a leaf,
And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

The filthy garments here in the Hebrew actually means menstrual rags.
Doesn't get any more gross than that.

That is what God thinks of our Christian service and our righteous deeds.


Do not like that.. that is fine.. but this is the bible.

So take it up with God.


We are told..
2 Cor 6
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?

So when you have believers and unbelievers working together to fight hunger... or fighting global warming..
That is EVIL..
We are not on the same wave length and that is also saying our God is unable to handle things... so we need man to handle it.

[markedward]

Examples of Evil,,

• Altruistic humanitarianism
• Philanthropy
• Religion
• Legalism
• Reversionism
• Socialism
• Political internationalism
• Government interference
• Distortion of the law
• Bribery in government
• Reducing the military
• Sociology
• Public welfare

This is the equivalent of saying that 'peacemaking' is evil just because everyone thinks 'the antichrist' will disguise himself as a peacemaker.

If you are going to claim that these things are inherently evil, please provide Scriptural reasoning behind each and every one of them. Simply accusing anyone who does these things as doing them 'by the flesh' is judging where you have no business being a judge.

[Watchman]

Evil is often a distortion of doctrine or a distortion of the laws of divine establishment.
In which man seeks to solve his problems thru man or man made solutions with out God or man works in the name of God for these solutions.....snip by Watchman

Examples of Evil,,

• Altruistic humanitarianism
• Philanthropy
• Religion
• Legalism
• Reversionism
• Socialism
• Political internationalism
• Government interference
• Distortion of the law
• Bribery in government
• Reducing the military
• Sociology
• Public welfare

First off, everything we do is to be in His Name per Colossians 3:17. There are no Biblical injunctions against any of the above, except legalism and bribery. Perhaps it would help if each was given its own scriptural support?

W

[Vhayes]

Ok. This is strange...

Colight, are you saying:
* Our "job" as Christians is to preach the gospel
* When our focus becomes save the planet/feed the hungry/healthcare/patriotism/education/and on and one, that we have lost focus
* That when we align ourselves with non-believers for any cause OTHER than spreading the gospel, we will automatically be serving the ruler of this world no matter how "good" it all sounds.

IF and I mean IF this is what you are saying, then believe it or not, I agree with you for the most part.

Which is, as I said... strange.

[Fenris]

When I think of "evil", I think of stuff like robbery, murder, etc. Not philanthropy or legalism.

[andrew_no_one]

Okay, so how about this: Is it wrong to give to others if we're doing it for our own glory? i.e. giant checks that companies give to charities.

[Fenris]

Okay, so how about this: Is it wrong to give to others if we're doing it for our own glory? i.e. giant checks that companies give to charities.

Are you asking me? No, I don't think that's wrong. Obviously our motives should be the right ones. But does it help the recipient of the charity any less if the giver has the wrong motive?

[Vhayes]

Okay, so how about this: Is it wrong to give to others if we're doing it for our own glory? i.e. giant checks that companies give to charities.

My guess is those giant checks would stop if companies were no longer able to take them as tax write-offs.

It irks me to no end when I read where a company has donated a huge dollar amount to whatever cause and I know they have employees who struggle to make it. Charity should begin at home.