Sperm cells created from female embryo......

[Dani H]

How is a 4-1/2 year-old article "news"?

Is there a followup somewhere or is it all crickets chirping since that was published?

[Ferdinand Venter]

Hahahaha I didn't even look at the date . So much for my observation.

[Vhayes]

We have people dying of pneumonia, cancer, heart disease - going blind with macular degeneration, unable to walk because of Lou Gehrig's disease and what do we end up with????

Sperm cells from a female? Viagra????

God help us.

[NewInHim]

We have people dying of pneumonia, cancer, heart disease - going blind with macular degeneration, unable to walk because of Lou Gehrig's disease and what do we end up with????

Sperm cells from a female? Viagra????

God help us.

Exactly. It's a sad waste of knowledge, skill, talent and resources. In my opinion.

[Dani H]

Exactly. It's a sad waste of knowledge, skill, talent and resources. In my opinion.

Not just yours ....

[Zaida]

The article claimed that they created sperm cells from an embryo. An embryo is a fertilized egg - i.e. you need sperm to create it to start with.

[Tseitha]

The article claimed that they created sperm cells from an embryo. An embryo is a fertilized egg - i.e. you need sperm to create it to start with.

It is possible to create sperm cells from female bone marrow as well. So that argument is intensely invalid.

[Tseitha]

We have people dying of pneumonia, cancer, heart disease - going blind with macular degeneration, unable to walk because of Lou Gehrig's disease and what do we end up with????

Sperm cells from a female? Viagra????

God help us.

There are actually more people who are homosexual than there are people that die each year from cancer. So I can see why assisting them seems viable; if the human race is all about reproduction and survival I would think that finding more ways to make more babies would be efficient rather than trying to figure out how to prevent them from dying. About 150 million babies are born each year and 60 million people die each year. I think preventing death is the least of our worries. If anything the human race could use a good struggle.

[Aservantonthemount]

I hear ya. For those that don't know my style, my post was total sarcasm. I don't know. Stuff like this almost makes me feel like evil is stronger than good. That, then, gets me discouraged. Which makes me angry. That, then, leads to sarcasm. It sucks, but, it is what it is.

The hearts of most will grow cold. This is just the beginning. Humanity, when left to their own devices, is extremely destructive, and selfish. The greedand lust of man and woman knows no bounds.

[awestruckchild]

I hear ya. For those that don't know my style, my post was total sarcasm. I don't know. Stuff like this almost makes me feel like evil is stronger than good. That, then, gets me discouraged. Which makes me angry. That, then, leads to sarcasm. It sucks, but, it is what it is.

Sometimes just tweaking the way we look at something refreshes us W4G.
In the bible, God waits a bit and then says: I am going down there to see if the outcry against this place really is as bad as I'm hearing...
Or He says: NOW look what they have begun to do, and then He bursts out.
So....look up! Your salvation draws nearer and nearer!
Whew - goosebumps!

[Hannah]

The geek in me thinks this is just a tiny bit cool actually. It would be interesting to see if it worked for actually creating a baby.

Bot genders have the other genders chromosomes latently in the DNA, so it's not that surprising that it worked.

If they get it to work, then the whole male species would become superflous..... It's creepy but it has a certain girl power ring to it that is rather cool.

[Warrior4God]

The geek in me thinks this is just a tiny bit cool actually. It would be interesting to see if it worked for actually creating a baby.

Bot genders have the other genders chromosomes latently in the DNA, so it's not that surprising that it worked.

If they get it to work, then the whole male species would become superflous..... It's creepy but it has a certain girl power ring to it that is rather cool.

It's disturbing and very anti-God what you are saying here. God made things to work a certain way, which, if you somehow weren't aware of in sex education classes or a talk with your parents, required a male and female to reproduce together. The fact that you find this bizarre, pro-lesbian, Frankenstein science "cool" is just... warped.

[Hannah]

It's disturbing and very anti-God what you are saying here. God made things to work a certain way, which, if you somehow weren't aware of in sex education classes or a talk with your parents, required a male and female to reproduce together. The fact that you find this bizarre, pro-lesbian, Frankenstein science "cool" is just... warped.

God allows us to discover stuff like this, it does not mean it has to be common place. It's not like a person is going to be able to buy a DIY kit for making a baby out of two women any time soon. And even if they were, how is it any more disturbing then test tube babies or gay adoption/lesbian adoption, which is already legal?

If men make sure to treat women right then they do not have to fear being pushed aside by a DIY baby kit now, would they?

But we live in a twisted world and some women actually feel so hurt by men that they want to stay away, quite without being lesbian. It's a sick society that encourages men to take advantage and to view women as objects, and for women to play along with this in dress, behaviour and promiscuity. All the while media is chirping about gender equality which obviously is a utopia that can never be realised unless you eliminate all physical and emotional differences!

Women are the victims in this much more than men - even if men get critisized a lot in PC media, just for being true to how they were created. I don't approve of that either, not at all! All this is what's revolting, not a baby created from God's genius DNA, out of two individuals of the same gender.

Men forced into feminized behaviour by PC values, or women objectized in pornography or degrading dress or standards one minute, and then pretending to be like men in the boardroom or battleground the next.
This twisted gender situation in the Western world is what is "Frankenstein" not science!

No wonder some women might turn their back and perhaps want to make their own women-only baby! It obviously already happens, but in the "old fashioned" way. See classic 1990s video below. I am single but could obviously have my own "no-known-father" baby if that's what I wanted, including "designing" it to a point, by selecting a father that seemed "right". This introduces nothing which is not already "available" to achieve in the old fashioned way.

But you'd have to wonder whether this baby would really get all the parts and personality traits he needed, particularly if it was a boy. Would be rather cruel to experiment and create some kind of genderless baby or a baby with messed up gender identity. So don't worry, I am thinking that this is cool strictly from a sci-fi pop psychology perspective.

But I wouldn't necessarily say it's un-biblical. Who could? This type of stuff is not covered in the bible unless you are very creative in the interpretation.

There wouldn't even be any actual lesbian sex involved in creating the baby. It could be a way for a celibate woman to have a baby with her (also celibate best friend), for example.

[Warrior4God]

God allows us to discover stuff like this, it does not mean it has to be common place. It's not like a person is going to be able to buy a DIY kit for making a baby out of two women any time soon. And even if they were, how is it any more disturbing then test tube babies or gay adoption/lesbian adoption, which is already legal?

If men make sure to treat women right then they do not have to fear being pushed aside by a DIY baby kit now, would they?

But we live in a twisted world and some women actually feel so hurt by men that they want to stay away, quite without being lesbian. It's a sick society that encourages men to take advantage and to view women as objects, and for women to play along with this in dress, behaviour and promiscuity. All the while media is chirping about gender equality which obviously is a utopia that can never be realised unless you eliminate all physical and emotional differences!

Women are the victims in this much more than men - even if men get critisized a lot in PC media, just for being true to how they were created. I don't approve of that either, not at all! All this is what's revolting, not a baby created from God's genius DNA, out of two individuals of the same gender.

Men forced into feminized behaviour by PC values, or women objectized in pornography or degrading dress or standards one minute, and then pretending to be like men in the boardroom or battleground the next.
This twisted gender situation in the Western world is what is "Frankenstein" not science!

No wonder some women might turn their back and perhaps want to make their own women-only baby! It obviously already happens, but in the "old fashioned" way. See classic 1990s video below. I am single but could obviously have my own "no-known-father" baby if that's what I wanted, including "designing" it to a point, by selecting a father that seemed "right". This introduces nothing which is not already "available" to achieve in the old fashioned way.

But you'd have to wonder whether this baby would really get all the parts and personality traits he needed, particularly if it was a boy. Would be rather cruel to experiment and create some kind of genderless baby or a baby with messed up gender identity. So don't worry, I am thinking that this is cool strictly from a sci-fi pop psychology perspective.

But I wouldn't necessarily say it's un-biblical. Who could? This type of stuff is not covered in the bible unless you are very creative in the interpretation.

There wouldn't even be any actual lesbian sex involved in creating the baby. It could be a way for a celibate woman to have a baby with her (also celibate best friend), for example.

Ace of Base: All that she wants... is another baby

Yeah, it is wrong how women are treated at times. I won't deny that. That doesn't make right what some women would want to do, though, such as have a baby with another woman. Also, the "it's not mentioned word for word as a warning to stay away from in the Bible, so it must be ok to do" argument is not valid. You don't need the Bible to specifically say, "Two women shall not make a baby together" in order to know it's a perversion of God's design for human sexuality and reproduction. God condemned homosexuality, including lesbianism, in His Word on several occasions. Even if it had been only one time, that should be enough. God designed man and woman to reproduce together. Not two men. Not two women. People that are upset about that fact need to take it up with God. The fact that God gave mankind the ability to think and be creative and discover things through science doesn't mean God is ok with everything man figures out how to do with that science. Mankind figured out how to split the atom and make nuclear weapons. Do you think God gets all giddy with joy knowing that mankind has the ability to make itself extinct several times over with all of it's nuclear weapons? I somehow doubt it.

[Hannah]

Yeah, it is wrong how women are treated at times. I won't deny that. That doesn't make right what some women would want to do, though, such as have a baby with another woman. Also, the "it's not mentioned word for word as a warning to stay away from in the Bible, so it must be ok to do" argument is not valid. You don't need the Bible to specifically say "two women shall not make a baby together" in order to know it's a perversion of God's design for human sexuality and reproduction. God condemned homosexuality, including lesbianism, in His Word. God designed man and woman to reproduce together. Not two men. Not two women. People that are upset about that need to get over themselves or else take it up with God.

Yes, but there is NO lesbian sex involved in this! It's done in a lab.
I don't support gay adoption, but a woman can always get pregnant if she wants anyway - so it's not as if banning this is going to stop lesbians from having babies if they want.

I just read about a downhill skiing star in Sweden who outed herself as lesbian when she had to stand back to have a baby. She said that the father of her baby was just "somebody doing her a favour", and that the baby would be raised be her and her "partner". I mean, what can you do?! She's got the equipment, and I am sure she had plenty of volunteers to "do her a favour". At least they are women - the lifestyle of gay men is a bit more worrying I think.
She didn't want to out herself and didn't want to speak of her lifestyle, to her credit. It was just that people noticed that she lived with another woman, and wondered what was going on.
Obviously she is now the absolute darling of PC media, they can't get enough of her.

And the bible doesn't spell out that the parents of a baby needs to be the same gender. Where is the sin? The baby would not be any worse off than somebody raised by a single mother.
So it's no worse then test tube insemination. Are you against that too?