Republican Nation Convention Paradox?

[Redeemed by Grace]

Did anyone else catch the keynote speech of Chris Christie at the Republican National convention last night? For those who did, did you also see that in Christie's effort in trying to build unity amongst the delegates and for that matter - Americans watching, did anyone else notice what he stated about love and respect?

Whereas in paraphrasing, 'we don't need to love everyone, but to respect everyone.... for out of respect comes love....'


Wow.... Now in looking through my bible, I'd have to say that Mr. Christie is not an avid reader of the word, if at all a believer in the word.


I turned the channel off after that, so not sure if Romney had any comments... But I guess my point is the unity of the American Spirit if quickly fading fast, and the values of actions and activities are being defined by folks who have a name and who seem to sound 'right'. Now I'm not judging Mr. Christie's religion per se, but I am judging his speech, and from what I heard, USA values are being redefined by both political parties, and are being contemporized by what ear tickling words that may sound right and not to the basis of the tenets of the constitution, let along the word of God.

[keck553]

Did anyone else catch the keynote speech of Chris Christie at the Republican National convention last night? For those who did, did you also see that in Christie's effort in trying to build unity amongst the delegates and for that matter - Americans watching, did anyone else notice what he stated about love and respect?

Whereas in paraphrasing, 'we don't need to love everyone, but to respect everyone.... for out of respect comes love....'


Wow.... Now in looking through my bible, I'd have to say that Mr. Christie is not an avid reader of the word, if at all a believer in the word.


I turned the channel off after that, so not sure if Romney had any comments... But I guess my point is the unity of the American Spirit if quickly fading fast, and the values of actions and activities are being defined by folks who have a name and who seem to sound 'right'. Now I'm not judging Mr. Christie's religion per se, but I am judging his speech, and from what I heard, USA values are being redefined by both political parties, and are being contemporized by what ear tickling words that may sound right and not to the basis of the tenets of the constitution, let along the word of God.

Really?

"the fear (respect) of God is the beginning of all wisdom."

Without wisdom, you don't have a clue how love in a Biblical context.

[Redeemed by Grace]

I found the actual Quote:

"...The greatest lesson Mom ever taught me, though, was this one: she told me there would be times in your life when you have to choose between being loved and being respected. She said to always pick being respected, that love without respect was always fleeting -- but that respect could grow into real, lasting love."

From : http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/c...033352885.html

[Redeemed by Grace]

I found the actual Quote:

"...The greatest lesson Mom ever taught me, though, was this one: she told me there would be times in your life when you have to choose between being loved and being respected. She said to always pick being respected, that love without respect was always fleeting -- but that respect could grow into real, lasting love."

From : http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/c...033352885.html

Looking at this quote, can I choose to be loved or respected? I can give love and respect someone, but I can't chose to be loved be someone or respected by some one, can i?

[Jeanne D]

I enjoyed his speech actually. I think what he was trying to say is that we can't be popular with everyone and we can't please everybody, we have to do what is right.

Jeanne

[keck553]

Amen. Some hated Jesus for not pandering.

[Vhayes]

I enjoyed his speech actually. I think what he was trying to say is that we can't be popular with everyone and we can't please everybody, we have to do what is right.

Jeanne

Yep. I think that's pretty much what Obama said as well.

[Vhayes]

Really?

"the fear (respect) of God is the beginning of all wisdom."

Without wisdom, you don't have a clue how love in a Biblical context.

Boy, will I ever agree with that statement.

But I don't think that was what is being discussed.

I don't have to respect a person to love them. I have to respect GOD to love people in the "correct" or perfect way. Otherwise, it's sloppy agape.

[BrianW]

Yep. I think that's pretty much what Obama said as well.

President Obama said a lot of things. In fact president Obama promised to do a lot of things before he was elected president. Balance the budget, have a clear and transparent administration, shake up Washington and get things done and be a unifier of both parties, reduce the national debt (HA!!) etc.

One of the thing he said was that if he didn't fulfill his promises that he would be a one term president. I hope he at least got that one right because as far as I can tell......he's been wrong a whole lot more than he's been right.

[Jeanne D]

Quick question,
What time is Paul Ryan scheduled to speak tonight? I tried to find a schedule of events, but couldn't find the times.

Jeanne

[Reynolds357]

Did anyone else catch the keynote speech of Chris Christie at the Republican National convention last night? For those who did, did you also see that in Christie's effort in trying to build unity amongst the delegates and for that matter - Americans watching, did anyone else notice what he stated about love and respect?

Whereas in paraphrasing, 'we don't need to love everyone, but to respect everyone.... for out of respect comes love....'


Wow.... Now in looking through my bible, I'd have to say that Mr. Christie is not an avid reader of the word, if at all a believer in the word.


I turned the channel off after that, so not sure if Romney had any comments... But I guess my point is the unity of the American Spirit if quickly fading fast, and the values of actions and activities are being defined by folks who have a name and who seem to sound 'right'. Now I'm not judging Mr. Christie's religion per se, but I am judging his speech, and from what I heard, USA values are being redefined by both political parties, and are being contemporized by what ear tickling words that may sound right and not to the basis of the tenets of the constitution, let along the word of God.

Chris Christy is a politician, not my pastor. I dont care if he loves or hates just as long as his legislation is best for this nation.

[keck553]

Boy, will I ever agree with that statement.

But I don't think that was what is being discussed.

I don't have to respect a person to love them. I have to respect GOD to love people in the "correct" or perfect way. Otherwise, it's sloppy agape.

I was addressing the comment that Christie's characterization of respect and love are unScriptual, not the context of the speech

Besides, who could bemoan Aretha?

[keck553]

Yep. I think that's pretty much what Obama said as well.

I could care less if Obama pleases me or not. That's not his job. Unfortunaltely as an employee of the American people, he's woefully unqualified.

I think he should go back to the basics and open a lemonaide stand before graduating to Koolaide.

[Redeemed by Grace]

Chris Christy is a politician, not my pastor. I dont care if he loves or hates just as long as his legislation is best for this nation.

I understand... yet he is preaching.

The point of the post is that the words are being crafted by both political parties that are driven to tickle men's ears. Governor Christie, who is given the platform to position his views of what we Republicans are suppose to embrace, is worldly, as I would expect. The call is a rally call of the party, based on values of his experience of his youth. Contrast that to the rally call of let's say the Ronald Regan era, and well there is quite a difference.

Again the point I am trying to show through the words of the politicians of the day, they are preaching another 'gospel' per se. How can the USA be 'saved'? 'Well, not by loving one another, but by respecting one another'?

It would be great, yet i know it be impossible - because it is not what we Americans do any more, but it would be great if we would give God the glory and seek His will. But instead, all politicians seek self-edification and sound out nice sounding battle cries to win the countries temporary and emotional trust, thus it sounds best to say I can accept someones respect, but not their love, which he should have stated not as a receptor but as the giver.... notice the difference... I chose to accept love, as apposed to - I choice to love all people. Looks the same as first blush, but is quite different. in meaning

So what make's legislation best for the nation? If it follows the spirit of the Jewish/Christian influences of the original constitution, instead of what we see today it means - based on the current adaptation of society. Gov Christie is no different, it sounded good, but what does he really mean?

[keck553]

But your comment about love and respect is totally out of context with what he actuallly said.