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    The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Stand up, stand up for Jesus;
    Stand in his strength alone;
    The arm of flesh will fail you,
    You dare not trust your own.
    Put on the Gospel armor;
    Each piece put on with prayer.
    Where duty calls or danger,
    Be never wanting there.
    (Stand up for Jesus- verse 3)



    a. The Law cannot save-

    Romans 3: 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

    Galatians 2:21- I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

    b. Man is made powerless by sin-

    Romans 5:6- For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

    c. Inability of man to do the good in the flesh.

    Romans 7: 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

    d. No confidence in the flesh.

    Philippians 3:3- For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

    e. Grace that draws us:

    John 6:44- No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    f. Christians cannot even stand in their own strength, but need God to uphold them.

    Jude 24- Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

    g. The atonement is for sinners, not righteous people.

    Mark 2:17- When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    h. Christ died for sinners, not righteous people.

    Romans 5:8- But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    i. Christ died for those who were without strength, not for those who could prevail through the flesh.

    Romans 5: 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly

    j. Finally, if Christ had not died for us, none of us would have been ever free to come to God.


    Hebrews 10: 19-22
    Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
    By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh
    having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience , and our bodies washedAnd having an high priest over the house ofGod; Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

    k. It is Christ who strengthens us to do all thing.

    Philippians 4:13-
    I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me

    L. Welcome to the realm of the power of God. Seek not a form of godliness that denies the very power of godliness, but seek the righteousness and holiness that can only come through the atonement.

    2 Peter 1:4- Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    All of this, ( along with the wholesome teachings of the the resurrection and the ascension) is the foundation of what I believe regarding God, man, sin, and grace.

    Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe...

    I would add to this, all Glory to Him belongs.
    1 John 1:7- But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    2 Corinthians 7:1- Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

    "My heart was once hard and dark. Then God turned on the Light and the Water."

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    It don't think it's all about the flesh.

    Ephesians 6: 10-17

    The Armor of God

    10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devilís schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Quote Originally Posted by ndibari View Post
    It don't think it's all about the flesh.

    Ephesians 6: 10-17

    The Armor of God

    10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devilís schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
    Good passage of scripture. My point was that we cannot accomplish anything in the flesh. The word flesh is often used to denote our own strength, power, will, or fortitude.

    It is "...not by power, nor by might, but by my Spirit says the LORD. ( Zechariah 4:6)

    We can will, but the power belongs to the LORD, who works in us both to will and to do of His Good Pleasure.

    Blessings.
    1 John 1:7- But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    2 Corinthians 7:1- Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

    "My heart was once hard and dark. Then God turned on the Light and the Water."

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    True. The arm of flesh will fail you.

    Just felt like extending this thought...

    Flesh even when it starts with a big bang(enthusiasm), it will wear out after some time because it is weak.
    It cannot stand against the fiery assaults of the evil one. It will crumble in times of need.
    That's why Jesus said in Matt 26:41 "...the flesh is weak."

    Usually, as believers, we start with a mixture of flesh and grace.
    As we grow and and mature, we get built more and more by grace in every area.
    One mark of being built by flesh in an area of life is, there will be boasting.
    There is boasting because the flesh has contributed to the accomplishment of the deed.
    On the contrary, a man built by Christ alone will naturally be humble because he is conscious of the fact that
    apart from His grace, he could not have accomplished. He will attribute the credit to God alone(not by mere lips but from his heart).
    Eph 2:8-9 by grace you have been saved{present continuous pointing to ongoing sanctification also} through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast
    So, more and more you do not see any trace of boasting in the person who matures in Christ. And area by area, boasting is eliminated.

    This is a fantastic message for us because
    what is built by Christ alone, could go on and on without getting worn out since it is energized and propelled by the divine energy.
    Jesus never wore out when He walked on the earth and only the devil wore out in the end.
    That's why Jesus said in John 14:30 the ruler of this world(devil) is coming. He has no hold on me
    Let me paraphrase the 'he has no hold on me'...
    The devil has tried all his gimmicks on me and he could not even make a scratch on me. He failed miserably.
    [My comment: Not just the devil but even the world and the flesh failed miserably to make a dent on Jesus]
    This is the energy we tap into, when we seek to be built by grace, His energy that is unending and goes on and on without end.
    This is why the Bible exhorts us to be built by His grace.
    Phil 3:8-9 ...not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ-the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.

    What a way to live! To be built by Christ alone in every teeny weeny area of our lives.
    Because, then, we can go on and on in doing the works of God and building His kingdom with an unending divine energy.
    This is why Paul said in Phil 4:13, I can do all things through him who gives me strength

    God bless.

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Quote Originally Posted by glad4mercy View Post
    My point was that we cannot accomplish anything in the flesh. The word flesh is often used to denote our own strength, power, will, or fortitude.

    It is "...not by power, nor by might, but by my Spirit says the LORD. ( Zechariah 4:6)

    We can will, but the power belongs to the LORD, who works in us both to will and to do of His Good Pleasure.
    Great point that "The word flesh is often used to denote our own strength, power, will, or fortitude." I didn't really get this understanding or what your main point was out of your OP until you clarified it here, can be a great discussion.
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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Quote Originally Posted by nksteve View Post
    True. The arm of flesh will fail you.

    Just felt like extending this thought...

    Flesh even when it starts with a big bang(enthusiasm), it will wear out after some time because it is weak.
    It cannot stand against the fiery assaults of the evil one. It will crumble in times of need.
    That's why Jesus said in Matt 26:41 "...the flesh is weak."

    Usually, as believers, we start with a mixture of flesh and grace.
    As we grow and and mature, we get built more and more by grace in every area.
    Great explanation and use of "...the flesh is weak." Nice addition to the conversation.


    Quote Originally Posted by nksteve View Post
    One mark of being built by flesh in an area of life is, there will be boasting.
    There is boasting because the flesh has contributed to the accomplishment of the deed.
    On the contrary, a man built by Christ alone will naturally be humble because he is conscious of the fact that
    apart from His grace, he could not have accomplished. He will attribute the credit to God alone(not by mere lips but from his heart).
    Eph 2:8-9 by grace you have been saved{present continuous pointing to ongoing sanctification also} through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast
    So, more and more you do not see any trace of boasting in the person who matures in Christ. And area by area, boasting is eliminated.
    I agree and another great use of Scripture and understanding of that particular part of Scripture.


    Quote Originally Posted by nksteve View Post
    This is a fantastic message for us because
    what is built by Christ alone, could go on and on without getting worn out since it is energized and propelled by the divine energy.
    Jesus never wore out when He walked on the earth and only the devil wore out in the end.
    That's why Jesus said in John 14:30 the ruler of this world(devil) is coming. He has no hold on me
    Let me paraphrase the 'he has no hold on me'...
    The devil has tried all his gimmicks on me and he could not even make a scratch on me. He failed miserably.
    [My comment: Not just the devil but even the world and the flesh failed miserably to make a dent on Jesus]
    This is the energy we tap into, when we seek to be built by grace, His energy that is unending and goes on and on without end.
    This is why the Bible exhorts us to be built by His grace.
    Phil 3:8-9 ...not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ-the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.
    Again nice explanation and use of Scripture here.


    Quote Originally Posted by nksteve View Post
    What a way to live! To be built by Christ alone in every teeny weeny area of our lives.
    Because, then, we can go on and on in doing the works of God and building His kingdom with an unending divine energy.
    This is why Paul said in Phil 4:13, I can do all things through him who gives me strength

    God bless.
    Well once again great explanation and use of Scripture ... and welcome to the forum, I see this is your first post.
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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Thanks for the comments, 'Christ In me'
    There's a great message right in your user name. Nice.
    Yeah. This is my first post. Will do the intro in a little while.

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Quote Originally Posted by nksteve View Post
    Thanks for the comments, 'Christ In me'
    There's a great message right in your user name. Nice.
    Yea obviously I think this is a great subject (and obviously you do also since it's where you have your first post) ... and my signature is:

    Lead me in Your truth and teach me,
    For You are the God of my salvation;
    On You I wait all the day.

    Psalms 25:5


    So I'm going to wait on Him and not do things with my "arm of the flesh" (my own strength, power) ...
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    Lead me in Your truth and teach me,
    For You are the God of my salvation;
    On You I wait all the day.

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Reliance...oh how I want to do it my way!

    Ever notice when surrendering to His way things move and change and work good even in the most irritating circumstances?

    His ways are so far above mine that I cannot say I understand them...
    Peace to you!

    Matthew 6:22-23
    ďThe eye is the lamp of the body.
    So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness.
    If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    I like the distinction with this being about an inability to do "good" instead of an inability to do anything. Absolute phrases like "I can do all things" and "nothing is impossible" should only be considered from the perspective of doing God's will. Because, I would say it is fairly obvious that we can do plenty of things in the flesh that are outside of His will. Someone should make a Bible translation with caveats annotated to every occurring promise and absolute statement.


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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Some additional thoughts…

    Just like sanctification which is an ongoing process until we leave this earth, as we engage in God’s work, we will always find our godly deeds done with a mixture
    of flesh{self-effort} and Christ{by grace through faith}.
    Quite frequently, at the time of carrying out the good deed, our intention is good and it we do with all sincerity.
    But, after the deed is done, we would realize that some of it was done by relying on our flesh and some by relying fully on Christ.
    So, what do we do?

    Do we simply sit endlessly and wait until we do it perfectly?
    No.
    We need to continue our engagement in the works of God.
    As long as we are earnest in our attempt, we can move ahead.
    After the deed, if we realize some percentage of it was done using our fleshly strength, then we can correct it next time.
    Our reliance in our fleshly strength will slowly minimize and more and more, our reliance on Christ will increase.

    As long as the next step is clear in what we need to do, we need to move ahead. Not wait until all the steps till the end are clear. If we wait until the whole 9 yards is clear, nothing will get done and only our laziness and spiritual lethargy will increase and we end up building a lot of inertia.

    So, it is always better to take the baby steps initially for which the Lord has given us energy, clarity and motivation.
    As we move, along the way, God will increase the clarity in the next step, our energy will increase and soon we will gain momentum and will be propelling at a great speed fueled by divine energy.

    For e.g., some days when we don’t feel like going to the Gym or go for a walk for fitness even though we have adequate time, if we think of the whole workout, then we start thinking it would take 2 hrs and I need to do this and that and we tend to sit down thinking it is a humongous task.
    Instead, I can start doing what I can do instead of thinking about the whole 9 yards! So, get up first and start walking with simple steps, meditating some scripture, without thinking of the 2 hr workout, then slowly move out of the door, may be start walking in the street for a little while. By now, what happens unconsciously is… we gain momentum slowly and by the time we realize we would have finished walking 1 hr and finish our fitness routine. Also, we would feel like going for more! Why? Because we gain momentum as we move and our inertia decreases and energy increases.
    A proverb says “Journey of 1000 miles starts with just one small step”.
    Let’s take the first step for which the Lord has given us clarity and energy. As we move, the Lord will provide the required energy and increase the supply of energy as we progress.

    In the same way, our engagement in prayer, our works for the Lord etc., As we take baby steps and move, we slowly gain momentum and would be moving at full speed in a matter of time!

    Sometimes, we may not even have the desire to do.
    It’s natural. Because, we are totally impotent spiritually. This is the time we realize that even for the very desire, we need to rely on our Lord for His working in us.
    I like the Living Bible translation of the verse here which says
    Phil 2:13 God is at work within you, helping you want to obey him, and then helping you do what he wants.
    So, it is He Who gives us the very desire to obey Him and do His will.

    Also, beware of dampers, stay away from everything that dampens the fervency in the spirit like useless TV programs or anything that numbs the spirit.
    We can seek God’s grace{He will supply His grace abundantly James 4:6} to help us stay away from everything that does not contribute to the sharpness of our spirit in the Lord.

    Last edited by nksteve; Feb 14th 2016 at 05:14 AM.

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    Re: The Arm of the Flesh will fail you, you dare not trust your own.

    Hmmm, and yet Jesus told us to buy a sword.

    Perhaps Jesus or the song (hymn?) is incorrect?

    I know which one I'll choose.
    PROV 25:26 Like a muddied spring, and a polluted well, so is a righteous man who gives way before the wicked. -World English Bible

    MT 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.


    As opposed to the bad man that does nothing?

    AMOS 6:3 Ye that put far away the evil day, and cause the seat of violence to come near;

    Righteousness comes from the Bible, but our ability to possess the Bible comes from the possession of the sword.

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