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    Two questions.

    1. What three things would you change about your experience in your local church?

    2. What practical actions can you take in the next three months to cause those changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew Ward's Hip View Post
    Two questions.

    1. What three things would you change about your experience in your local church?

    2. What practical actions can you take in the next three months to cause those changes?
    Great questions. Let me think on this.


    EDIT: I would like to see more community outreach with the Gospel and more Creationism based education, ( at least present the option ) [ you could have guess that one ] I have seen a few attempts over the years to change the direction/focus of some churches and it was hard on many people. Always worth trying tho. Perhaps tho, sometimes, it may be better to change churches that are closer to ones personal convictions, idk. There are so many different perspectives within the body, each one thinking they have the correct priorities , its a daunting exercise, at times imho. I do try to do what I can do. Blogs, forums, flyers, tracks....
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    More opportunities for people to exercise their spiritual gifts, whether to interrupt with a prayer request, a testimony, a teaching that is particularly relevant to those present, or a discernment that something presented seems out of harmony with a sound understanding of the Bible. (Chop that up into three parts if you like.) I plan to take no actions to implement changes except to continue to chat with and perhaps challenge church members on certain issues, since a healthy church requires that individual members are mature enough to discern what is good. Without enough mature people in place, relaxing the traditional leadership model will simply allow the group to end up in the ditch of the loudest members' favorite teachings.

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    A greater concentration on getting our members to serve those outside of the church. Local missions with the intentional focus of discipleship of believers through service.

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    I would change three things:
    1) Introduce a strong interest in specifically identifying each gift of every believer in any manner associated with that congregation. After identifying their gift, be strongly supportive to assist each person to use their gifts. Everyone should know their gift and be labelled according to their gift. Anyone who's gift has not been clearly discovered, this is due to the elders not fulfilling their most basic of purposes.
    2) Eliminate the hierarchy of pastor then elders. In the bible a pastor was just another word for a shepherd. The label "shepherd" and the label "elder" were both used for the same people. ie the elders had a secondary label called "shepherd". The introduction of a single leader called "pastor" is biblically incorrect, the early church was always led by a group of elders/shepherds. In some cases (eg Timothy) there was a single elder while the new church was still developing disciples mature enough to join the eldership team.
    3) The reduction of responsibilities of the eldership/shepherd team. The church should be a simple organisation where there are a couple of elders who teach and encourage their congregation to explore their gifts and also disciple them in the ways of God. Through the church exercising their gifts the full range of needs of the church/community are fulfilled by God who will give the correct range of gifts to the congregation.

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    I wouldn't change a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew Ward's Hip View Post
    Two questions.

    1. What three things would you change about your experience in your local church?
    One thing mainly. I would take a hammer and chisel and remove the words Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, etc. from the facades. There is only one Christ.

    2. What practical actions can you take in the next three months to cause those changes?
    I don't want to go to jail. So, no plans for action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony P View Post
    One thing mainly. I would take a hammer and chisel and remove the words Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, etc. from the facades. There is only one Christ.



    I don't want to go to jail. So, no plans for action.

    Excellent idea. I consider myself non-demominatiomal as well. Although I go to a Baptist church.

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    Re: Local church

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony P View Post
    One thing mainly. I would take a hammer and chisel and remove the words Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, etc. from the facades. There is only one Christ.



    I don't want to go to jail. So, no plans for action.
    Others are commenting on this and I'd like to toss in my 2 cents.

    The Corinthians were doing this. Claiming to be of Cephas or Paul or Apollos. One group seemed to rise above and say they followed Christ. Paul corrected them all though including the Christ group.

    I think it's about attitude. Labels are not inherently wrong. If I move, I know I will fit better with some churches than others. I don't have to feel superior though because of that. My theology is Reformed. So I know by name many churches that won't agree. My theology is Baptist. So while I would agree with an Orthodox Presbyterian Church or Presbyterian Chuch of America on the Reformed issues, I know they baptize infants. I'll fit best in a Reformed Baptist Chuch. Doesn't make me better. Doesn't make them better. Doesn't make me or that church correct. I might be wrong. But if I move to a town with 100 churches, labels save me a lot of Sundays wasting my time at all non-denominational churches finding which teach what things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustGzus View Post
    Others are commenting on this and I'd like to toss in my 2 cents.

    The Corinthians were doing this. Claiming to be of Cephas or Paul or Apollos. One group seemed to rise above and say they followed Christ. Paul corrected them all though including the Christ group.

    I think it's about attitude. Labels are not inherently wrong. If I move, I know I will fit better with some churches than others. I don't have to feel superior though because of that. My theology is Reformed. So I know by name many churches that won't agree. My theology is Baptist. So while I would agree with an Orthodox Presbyterian Church or Presbyterian Chuch of America on the Reformed issues, I know they baptize infants. I'll fit best in a Reformed Baptist Chuch. Doesn't make me better. Doesn't make them better. Doesn't make me or that church correct. I might be wrong. But if I move to a town with 100 churches, labels save me a lot of Sundays wasting my time at all non-denominational churches finding which teach what things.
    Excellent points. I agree. "Labels" have their place. Statements of believe are good tools to.
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