TrustGzus wrote a post in another thread that I am going to copy and paste here. Its worth visiting so as to not be a post we simply drive by.
We all get adamant about our doctrines. There are some things, that I know, that I know, that I know. At least, until I don't know. Over the years, my positions on some doctrines have changed and the Lord has used them to my benefit. The same is true for many others. One thing that TrustGzus pointed out in his post is how rarely we give a nod to those that have a different view than we have when their verses back them up. Before I go further, there's a verse that I have come to love...
31 O Lord, my heart is not proud, nor my eyes haughty;
Nor do I involve myself in great matters,
Or in things too difficult for me.
Can we not admit that there is mystery in the word? There are things beyond our current ability to grasp? When I see a doctrine that creates pride in people, I run from it. TrustGzus made, what I thought, was an excellent point in another thread.
Here's the link to the full post:
Here's the part I think we should respond to in this thread and consider:
I'd be glad to go over any verse that speaks of seeking God. I'm not interested in slinging mud, and I think as much as we disagree you know that about me. I desire to build up and edify the saints.
I know there are passages that people who are not Reformed look at and think and/or say "there's no way the Reformed can reconcile this". I get that. I see it. I remember when I thought the same things.
I also realize in forums a lot of Calvinists are difficult to dialogue with and aren't as frank as I am being.
So in a sense, I don't care if any individual is on one side of the other. I've been on both. I can sympathize with both. I can present objections to both.
And the big one:
That's all I'm doing with these words: no one seeks God. I know you won't cut them out of your Bible. I know you don't want to say "it doesn't mean what it says." I know you love the Word and have a high view. I know you want to be approved unto God and not be ashamed, correctly handling the word of truth. So I know you can admit to the tension there.
I'll take "I don't know what to do with those words" from people. Fair enough. I'll also take a good explanation that explains why the Reformed are wrong in their understanding of those words. Obviously I'll accept the response "The Reformed brothers might have a point." What none of us can accept I hope is "I'll accept Acts 17:27 or Romans 3:10-12, and I'll avoid the other". I hope none of us will settle for that.
Can we at least be honest in our approach to the word and thoughtfully consider what someone else has to say? Can we see why they might believe what they believe? Can we acknowledge we don't have ALL the answers? After all, what is more important, the doctrine? Or the person to whom the doctrine is meant to impact? If we begin to think that truth is more important than our fellow believers, then we have missed the reason that God gave us truth to begin with. That truth is FOR our and our fellow believers benefit.
I like the way TrustGzus said it me years ago... "Mark, I try to put a pebble in their shoe." What he was getting at was he didn't want to run them off right now, or be overly offensive, but that small pebble would bother them while they walked until they took the time to deal with it. I loved the concept!
What do you all think?