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    Hebrews 10:26

    What exactly does this and subsequent verses mean?

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    What exactly does this and subsequent verses mean?

    Thanks.
    If you are drowning at sea, and someone throws you the *only* life ring available--the *only* life preserver available, and you reject that life ring, there will be no other opportunity for salvation. It's a one shot deal!

    That's what this passage is saying. Since Christ has come to provide the very thing that the Law promised--the exclusive means of salvation, you will be remiss in your wish to preserve yourself if you ignore, and turn away from, this exclusive salvation. There is no other option available.

    The Law made it abundantly clear that even a good system of righteousness as the Law could *not* save on an eternal basis. It may have allowed Israel to please God, win wars, avoid illnesses, and be blessed. But the Law could never have provided Israel with eternal life. Nothing man can do with his sinful record can provide for himself eternal life! That was the message of the Law! Only Christ could save on an eternal basis.

    Therefore, the author of Hebrews compelled Christians, if they are truly Christians, to hold onto what they have in the knowledge that it is the only thing of lasting value. Those who began as nominal Christians, and then turn away from Christ, will lose the only means they had to obtain eternal benefit.

    I've tried not to turn this into an argument over "eternal security!" I'm a predestinarian.

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    What exactly does this and subsequent verses mean?

    Thanks.
    What are your thoughts concerning the scripture?
    Slug1--out

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    ~Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,~


    ~"It is one thing to speak God's name in a message but another to speak of God's standards in a message. The name of God is not removed from many a message today but the standards of God... ARE removed."~

    ~"Psalm 106:23 Therefore He said that He would destroy them, Had not Moses His chosen one stood before Him in the breach, To turn away His wrath, lest He destroy them."...
    So don't say that God never meant to destroy the Hebrews, to do so, makes God a liar.~



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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    What exactly does this and subsequent verses mean?
    For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    It is not a good idea to take this verse in isolation. This wilful sinning is connected with the following (verse 29 and the entire chapter): Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, [1] who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and [2] hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and [3] hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace

    So this is really a sinning unto apostasy, which despises all Gospel truth -- "the knowledge of the truth" -- concerning Christ, His shed blood, the gracious work of the Holy Spirit, and all other matters pertaining to salvation. This is all demonstrated in theological liberalism and the false doctrines of false Christianity and the cults.

    The "sacrifice for sins" remains only for those who wholeheartedly and in simplicity and humility receive EVERYTHING revealed in the Bible regarding the plan of salvation and the deity of Christ. This is genuine "belief" or "faith" in Christ. But those who pick and choose what they will believe, and deliberately distort Gospel truth subject themselves to perdition (or damnation): But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. (v. 39).

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug1 View Post
    What are your thoughts concerning the scripture?
    I think it means what it says, but I think the sin in this verse is not general sins, it's the sin of unbelief of who Jesus is and what He has done. I think Paul is talking about a person who once believed and then for some reason stopped believing. For these, there is no more sacrifice, and it will be worse for them because they once did know the truth.

    Paul goes on to encourage them, telling them "but we do not belong to those who shrink back". He is encouraging but obviously there is a group of people who shrink back. He said there was and if there wasn't such a group, he wouldn't have mentioned them.

    This group of people are apostate, they have/will leave, depart and for them, it will not be a good outcome.

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    What exactly does this and subsequent verses mean?

    Thanks.
    *[[Heb 10:26]] KJV* For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    The, on the surface, interpretation of this verse would be to interpret it this way:
    *[[Heb 10:26]] KJV* For if we sin DELIBERATELY after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    But there is probably not a single person reading this that has not been guilty of deliberate sinning. If that were the proper way to understand this verse, we would all be lost and without hope of our salvation. So we must look at some other meaning. A good start to the answer lies in Hebrews 9. The blood of Christ is able to purge our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. The continual sinning that goes on in people's lives, hardens their hearts to the point that there is no more guilt for sins committed. Godly (as in what is pleasing to God) sorrow works repentance. Wilful sin is when one is able to commit sin without any remorse or guilt. The point i want to make is that we can be remorseful for deliberate sinning, but forgiveness, can be found. But deliberate sinning is a long ways down the road to wilful sinning, in which there is no guilt or remorse. If there is no guilt when we sin, our conscience cannot be purged of guilt.
    Blessings to all who keeps the saying and the prophecy of his book!
    GB

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    *[[Heb 10:26]] KJV* For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    The, on the surface, interpretation of this verse would be to interpret it this way:
    *[[Heb 10:26]] KJV* For if we sin DELIBERATELY after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    But there is probably not a single person reading this that has not been guilty of deliberate sinning. If that were the proper way to understand this verse, we would all be lost and without hope of our salvation. So we must look at some other meaning. A good start to the answer lies in Hebrews 9. The blood of Christ is able to purge our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. The continual sinning that goes on in people's lives, hardens their hearts to the point that there is no more guilt for sins committed. Godly (as in what is pleasing to God) sorrow works repentance. Wilful sin is when one is able to commit sin without any remorse or guilt. The point i want to make is that we can be remorseful for deliberate sinning, but forgiveness, can be found. But deliberate sinning is a long ways down the road to wilful sinning, in which there is no guilt or remorse. If there is no guilt when we sin, our conscience cannot be purged of guilt.
    Blessings to all who keeps the saying and the prophecy of his book!
    GB
    Deliberate sinning and willful sinning are not the same?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    *[[Heb 10:26]] KJV* For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    The, on the surface, interpretation of this verse would be to interpret it this way:
    *[[Heb 10:26]] KJV* For if we sin DELIBERATELY after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    But there is probably not a single person reading this that has not been guilty of deliberate sinning. If that were the proper way to understand this verse, we would all be lost and without hope of our salvation. So we must look at some other meaning. A good start to the answer lies in Hebrews 9. The blood of Christ is able to purge our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. The continual sinning that goes on in people's lives, hardens their hearts to the point that there is no more guilt for sins committed. Godly (as in what is pleasing to God) sorrow works repentance. Wilful sin is when one is able to commit sin without any remorse or guilt. The point i want to make is that we can be remorseful for deliberate sinning, but forgiveness, can be found. But deliberate sinning is a long ways down the road to wilful sinning, in which there is no guilt or remorse. If there is no guilt when we sin, our conscience cannot be purged of guilt.
    Blessings to all who keeps the saying and the prophecy of his book!
    GB
    Deliberate sinning and willful sinning are not the same?

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    [QUOTE=DavidC;3397716]Deliberate sinning and willful sinning are not the same?



    No, they are not. What is meant by wilful sinning, is that there is no resistance by your will. There is no objection by the conscience.
    Blessings
    GB

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    [QUOTE=goldenboy;3397717]
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    Deliberate sinning and willful sinning are not the same?



    No, they are not. What is meant by wilful sinning, is that there is no resistance by your will. There is no objection by the conscience.
    Blessings
    GB
    It makes sense, did not see that until now. It would be a really bad place to be, unregenerate.

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    To turn willfully away from the One Sacrifice that removes sin leaves one in a position where there is no other sacrifice. The blood of bulls and goats cannot reconcile man to God.

    I do not believe it to mean that one was saved, lost his salvation and cannot subsequently come back.

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    I think it means what it says, but I think the sin in this verse is not general sins, it's the sin of unbelief of who Jesus is and what He has done. I think Paul is talking about a person who once believed and then for some reason stopped believing. For these, there is no more sacrifice, and it will be worse for them because they once did know the truth.

    Paul goes on to encourage them, telling them "but we do not belong to those who shrink back". He is encouraging but obviously there is a group of people who shrink back. He said there was and if there wasn't such a group, he wouldn't have mentioned them.

    This group of people are apostate, they have/will leave, depart and for them, it will not be a good outcome.
    One of the more simple understandings is... as a person goes through life seeking "faith/religion", once they encounter Christ (tried Christianity), if they choose not to respond to Him, they passed on by their only hope of true forgiveness and eternal salvation. Some have looked at this verse in this manner and believe that a person who has done more then just "tried" Christianity, where they accepted Christ but fell away (better known as apostate as you mention), then they also passed by though "rejecting" what they had in Christ.

    This scripture is about more then a Christian who has, for what the term is known, backslidden. Which I don't use often as it's more about standing still in the race, not running backwards. All one must do is finally relent of their desire to feed their flesh with the world, repent and get moving again in the race. But one who is apostate, they got off the track and are not even desiring to run anymore.
    Slug1--out

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    ~Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,~


    ~"It is one thing to speak God's name in a message but another to speak of God's standards in a message. The name of God is not removed from many a message today but the standards of God... ARE removed."~

    ~"Psalm 106:23 Therefore He said that He would destroy them, Had not Moses His chosen one stood before Him in the breach, To turn away His wrath, lest He destroy them."...
    So don't say that God never meant to destroy the Hebrews, to do so, makes God a liar.~



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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by ChangedByHim View Post
    To turn willfully away from the One Sacrifice that removes sin leaves one in a position where there is no other sacrifice. The blood of bulls and goats cannot reconcile man to God.

    I do not believe it to mean that one was saved, lost his salvation and cannot subsequently come back.
    Do you believe a person can forfeit their salvation?

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC View Post
    Do you believe a person can forfeit their salvation?
    I do.

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug1 View Post
    One of the more simple understandings is... as a person goes through life seeking "faith/religion", once they encounter Christ (tried Christianity), if they choose not to respond to Him, they passed on by their only hope of true forgiveness and eternal salvation. Some have looked at this verse in this manner and believe that a person who has done more then just "tried" Christianity, where they accepted Christ but fell away (better known as apostate as you mention), then they also passed by though "rejecting" what they had in Christ.

    This scripture is about more then a Christian who has, for what the term is known, backslidden. Which I don't use often as it's more about standing still in the race, not running backwards. All one must do is finally relent of their desire to feed their flesh with the world, repent and get moving again in the race. But one who is apostate, they got off the track and are not even desiring to run anymore.
    Have you met anyone who has done that, quit running all together?

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    Re: Hebrews 10:26

    Quote Originally Posted by ChangedByHim View Post
    I do.
    I think the scriptures do indicate it, it's just difficult to understand why they would.

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