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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ProDeo View Post
    So Putin was right to conquer Crimea protecting the Russian population who did not want to belong to Europe?

    BTW, did you miss my #187 post? Curious about your reasoning.
    This is derailing from the main argument.
    Huh ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    We can discuss reasons for going to war until the cows come home,
    Well, it's my main argument for participation in this thread.

    It's a bit silly to have an argument what's the main argument of this thread, don't you think so too?

    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    but the main argument here is whether being a Christian soldier is a sin against God or not.
    Easy one, I am glad there are people who are willing to defend my country, Christian or not, I don't see any Biblical objection.

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    We’re good then

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    Here s my question;"Can u see any changes at all from the OT to the new?"
    Meaning changes from O.T to N.T. Not changes in God or Him changing

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    God does not change. Why can you not accept that as my answer?
    Question not answered!
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    Communists don't believe in God .
    I know MANY communists who believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tea View Post
    I know MANY communists who believe!
    Then they aren't true communist. The communist manifesto clearly states there is no room for God in communism.

    Here's a direct quote from the Communist Manifesto:

    Question 22. Do Communists reject existing religions?Answer: All religions which have existed hitherto were expressions of historical stages of development of individual peoples or groups of peoples. But communism is that stage of historical development which makes all existingreligions superfluous and supersedes them.
    It demands faith in government rather than faith in God. Goverment is meant to wield the sword of the wrath of God. The church is to bring about God's mercy and provision. When the two purposes get confused, you end up with communism, (or its weaker sister, socialism) lack of freedom (especially religious freedom), and many other issues.

    Here's a link to the manifesto if you wish to read it for yourself:

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/mar.../Manifesto.pdf
    Matt 9:13
    13 "But go and learn what this means: ' I DESIRE COMPASSION,AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
    NASU

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    Quote Originally Posted by tea View Post
    Here s my question;"Can u see any changes at all from the OT to the new?"
    Meaning changes from O.T to N.T. Not changes in God or Him changing
    What changed was the covenant. The Jesus who led Joshua to war is the same Jesus that we worship today. He still wields a sword through government, just like He did back then. However, as an individual, we are to love our enemies and leave their judgment to God and government. If a beleiver is part of government, then that believer must also carry out the duties of government, including wielding the sword of wrath.
    Matt 9:13
    13 "But go and learn what this means: ' I DESIRE COMPASSION,AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
    NASU

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    Quote Originally Posted by tea View Post
    I know MANY communists who believe!
    You may know some who live under communist rule, but they don't follow Communism. If they did , they would be atheist. One of the first rules of Communism is to rid yourself and your country of any expression of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tea View Post
    I know MANY communists who believe!
    Communism by doctrine has no room for God

    When are you leaving for Somalia to preach the Gospel?

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    Re: The Jesus life love your enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by tea View Post
    Here s my question;"Can u see any changes at all from the OT to the new?"
    Meaning changes from O.T to N.T. Not changes in God or Him changing



    Question not answered!
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    Question answered. I summarized the Book to the Hebrews to you in other threads but you read it out of context and inserted your personal doctrine into it and mis-quoted me at just as you inserted your personal doctrine into Scripture and mis-quoted Scripture.

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    Question not answered!
    Read again, and try again
    It's like talking to a wall. He CLEARLY answered your question. You just don't accept the answer because it's different than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    What changed was the covenant. The Jesus who led Joshua to war is the same Jesus that we worship today. He still wields a sword through government, just like He did back then. However, as an individual, we are to love our enemies and leave their judgment to God and government. If a beleiver is part of government, then that believer must also carry out the duties of government, including wielding the sword of wrath.
    AND, Jesus was THE Fulfillment of the OT.

    Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    By "changing" the covenant, Jesus did not abolish the old covenant. He simply added amendments to it because of the changes that were coming. Man could not abide by the old covenant in the FLESH, so God provided a Spiritual "clause" that allowed for salvation through His SON. However this was the plan from the very beginning;

    Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


    So then, HE FULFILLED THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS in that He was the Lamb, sacrificed for sins, as Commanded by the Father. Yet, this sacrifice if for all past to all future as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier_of_Faith View Post
    AND, Jesus was THE Fulfillment of the OT.

    Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    By "changing" the covenant, Jesus did not abolish the old covenant. He simply added amendments to it because of the changes that were coming. Man could not abide by the old covenant in the FLESH, so God provided a Spiritual "clause" that allowed for salvation through His SON. However this was the plan from the very beginning;

    Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


    So then, HE FULFILLED THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS in that He was the Lamb, sacrificed for sins, as Commanded by the Father. Yet, this sacrifice if for all past to all future as well.
    That basically makes us dead to the Law.
    Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    What changed was the covenant.
    Ok. Let me get this clear then. Was it only 1 change? From 1 covenant to another, no other changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProDeo View Post
    Not sure where you live, your username suggests England , but if an enemy invaded your country I suppose you would support your army?
    Nope, not England, but no, I will not support any physical war anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    Then they aren't true communist.
    You go try telling them that!

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