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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveUlysesses View Post
    anybody have sources with liberals siding with the Iranian government on this issue?
    The left is content to sit this one out. Countries that freaked out over Trump acknowledging Israel's capital have no comment on Iran and don't think it needs any Security Council recognition.
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurbanDude View Post
    Yes I feel sorry for those guys. When they remain under oppression it's bad. When they fight oppression it gets even worse. Look at Libya and Syria. Foreign intervention doesn't make things any better.
    Intervention can make things better. But it has to go beyond lobbing a few bombs and then leaving.

    Anyway the Iranian people if freed of their oppressive government would be pro-democracy, pro-west, and even perhaps pro-Israel. They'd make a wonderful ally against the fundamentalists. We should be working to free them and I hope we are (behind the scenes, even).
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Intervention can make things better. But it has to go beyond lobbing a few bombs and then leaving.

    Anyway the Iranian people if freed of their oppressive government would be pro-democracy, pro-west, and even perhaps pro-Israel. They'd make a wonderful ally against the fundamentalists. We should be working to free them and I hope we are (behind the scenes, even).
    I guess in theory that could work. In reality Western intervention in Libya , Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan has resulted in ongoing civil wars and ruined economies. But we can hope.

    And Israel has less threats in the area if it's local enemies are all in ruins so that's a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurbanDude View Post
    I guess in theory that could work. In reality Western intervention in Libya
    Western intervention in Libya consisting of dropping some bombs. That's it. If we had really intervened the situation might be better.


    Iraq,
    Iraq was a stable, functioning country until our intervention ended. The power vacuum left by withdrawing American troops was filled by ISIS.

    Syria
    Again, minimal intervention. "Using chemical weapons is a red line" said Obama. Assad used them with impunity and we did nothing.


    and Afghanistan
    Afghanistan is a basket case. If it became a third world country it would be a step up. But we didn't "intervene" there, the Taliban was hosting Bin Laden and wouldn't give him up. So they had to go.


    And Israel has less threats in the area if it's local enemies are all in ruins so that's a good thing.
    The only existential threat to Israel right now is a nuclear Iran. Thanks, Obama.
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Western intervention in Libya consisting of dropping some bombs. That's it. If we had really intervened the situation might be better.


    Iraq was a stable, functioning country until our intervention ended. The power vacuum left by withdrawing American troops was filled by ISIS.

    Again, minimal intervention. "Using chemical weapons is a red line" said Obama. Assad used them with impunity and we did nothing.


    Afghanistan is a basket case. If it became a third world country it would be a step up. But we didn't "intervene" there, the Taliban was hosting Bin Laden and wouldn't give him up. So they had to go.


    The only existential threat to Israel right now is a nuclear Iran. Thanks, Obama.
    Hmm interesting viewpoints . So you think that Iranians will benefit from an invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurbanDude View Post
    Hmm interesting viewpoints . So you think that Iranians will benefit from an invasion.
    Ummm did I say that? But we should do everything in our power to topple the Iranian regime. The government has got to go.
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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