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    Fire and Fury

    Lastest book on the Donald just out. Watch the trailer. Whadoyareckon? Get a copy?

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    From the left-leaning Washington Post

    Michael Wolff tells a juicy tale in his new Trump book. But should we believe it?

    By Paul Farhi

    Among the many things he’s been called — “blunt,” “pathetic,” “calculating” — the one thing Michael Wolff has never been described as is boring.

    A provocateur and media polemicist, Wolff has a penchant for stirring up an argument and pushing the facts as far as they’ll go, and sometimes further than they can tolerate, according to his critics. He has been accused of not just re-creating scenes in his books and columns, but of creating them wholesale.

    That’s some context for Wolff’s most explosive bit of reporting to date: A scathing new book, “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House,” describing dysfunction and infighting in Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and the first year of his presidency, replete with damning criticism of Trump from within his inner circle.

    According to an unauthorized report in the Guardian newspaper and a lengthy excerpt in New York magazine, Wolff portrays Trump and his closest aides as astonished by his electoral victory in 2016, and wholly unprepared for office. Trump, he reports, had no idea who former House speaker John A. Boehner was when Roger Ailes, a campaign adviser, recommended him as chief of staff. Top advisers and allies doubted the president’s intelligence and openly mocked him.

    But Wolff’s sharpest revelations concern comments attributed to Stephen K. Bannon, Trump’s campaign chairman and former White House chief strategist. In on-the-record interviews with Wolff, Bannon called a meeting between the Trump campaign’s top advisers and Russian representatives in mid-2016 “treasonous” and “unpatriotic” — furthering the narrative of Trump’s harshest critics.

    Bannon also warned that special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into alleged Russian collusion will focus on money laundering and the Trump family’s dealings with Deutsche Bank. Bannon, according to Wolff, predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Jr. like an egg on national TV. . . . They’re sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five.”

    Trump isn’t exactly disputing Wolff’s reporting, nor has Bannon backed down from them. In a statement issued Wednesday, Trump blasted his former top adviser, saying in part, “Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. . . . Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to make himself seem far more important than he was. It is the only thing he does well.”

    The fireworks almost certainly guarantee that the book will become a bestseller. But the second-guessing of Wolff’s work has already begun.

    Wolff, for example, writes that Thomas Barrack Jr., a billionaire friend of Trump’s, told a friend that Trump is “not only crazy, he’s stupid.” Barrack on Wednesday denied to a New York Times reporter that he ever said such a thing.

    Katie Walsh, a former White House adviser, has also disputed a comment attributed to her by Wolff, that dealing with Trump was “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”

    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders added her own skepticism during her daily briefing on Wednesday. “We know the book has a lot of things, so far that we’ve seen, that are completely untrue,” she said. She was not specific, but Sanders added that Wolff’s characterizations of White House operations were “the opposite of what I saw.”

    Wolff, 64, has said his book was based on 200 interviews with White House and campaign staffers, including Bannon. He didn’t respond to multiple requests for comment.

    His reliability has been challenged before — over quotes, descriptions and general accounts he’s provided in his many newspaper and magazine columns and in several books. Wolff has even acknowledged that he can be unreliable: As he recounted in “Burn Rate” — his best-selling book about his time as an early Internet entrepreneur — Wolff kept his bankers at bay by fabricating a story about his father-in-law having open-heart surgery.

    “How many fairly grievous lies had I told?” he wrote. “How many moral lapses had I committed? How many ethical breaches had I fallen into? . . . Like many another financial conniver, I was in a short-term mode.” Wolff’s business collapsed in 1997.

    “Burn Rate” came under siege from critics who challenged its credibility, including the long verbatim conversations that Wolff recounted despite taking scant notes. Brill’s Content, a now-defunct media-review publication, cited a dozen people who disputed quotes attributed to them in the book.

    Wolff followed up “Burn Rate” by taking over the media column at New York magazine, where he almost immediately ran into trouble. Judith Regan, then a hotshot book editor who had been a classmate of Wolff’s at Vassar, vigorously disputed almost every paragraph of Wolff’s column about her. She said she hadn’t had a personal conversation with Wolff in 30 years.

    Wolff’s response: “She doesn’t speak to me. . . . I suppose the world is full of people who no longer speak to me.”

    New Republic columnist Andrew Sullivan accused Wolff of putting words in his mouth when Wolff wrote in 2001 that Sullivan “believes that he is the most significant gay public intellectual in America today.” Sullivan said he never made any such claim.

    In a 2004 cover story for the New Republic, Michelle Cottle wrote that Wolff had become the “It Boy” of New York media after winning two National Magazine Awards for his commentary: “His quick wit, dizzying writing style, and willingness to say absolutely anything about anybody made his column a must-read,” she wrote.

    But she added, “Much to the annoyance of Wolff’s critics, the scenes in his columns aren’t recreated so much as created — springing from Wolff’s imagination rather than from actual knowledge of events. Even Wolff acknowledges that conventional reporting isn’t his bag.” An editor who worked with Wolff told Cottle, “He is adroit at making the reader think that he has spent hours and days with his subject, when in fact he may have spent no time at all.”

    Even Wolff’s anecdote about Trump being unaware of who Boehner was last year seems a bit suspect. The reason? Trump had tweeted about Boehner multiple times since 2011. In September 2015, for example, Trump tweeted this: “Wacky @glennbeck who always seems to be crying (worse than Boehner) speaks badly of me only because I refuse to do his show — a real nut job!”
    Guy is trying to make a buck with outlandish and fabulous claims, it seems. Might be an entertaining read, but take it all with a grain of salt I guess.
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    Looks like the Media needs a new narrative since the Russia thing is pointing more to Hillary than Trump.
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    Ooh, good point that had not occurred to me
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Ooh, good point that had not occurred to me
    I didn't think the left would go down without a fight....but they are going down.
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    Trump has been manipulating the media from day one. He has mastered them actually. So, when he came out with the "cease and desist" order, my antennae went up. He HAD to know that would cause the book's instant success. I wonder if this whole thing is just another rope-a-dope to keep the leftist media distracted.

    Think about it. Would we have gotten ANWAR and the end of the Obamacare mandate in the tax cut bill if the left wasn't distracted with the Russia collusion nonsense? Maybe, Trump will use this distraction to get the Wall funded. I would not be surprised if this book provides some good cover for Trump and Washington. I called it a gift the day I heard about it. I think I am right.

    I think Trump is throwing fake bones to the fake news media to keep them way out of the loop. Meanwhile the Trump agenda is rolling on in full force. He is out fake newsing the fake news media. Their abject hatred forces them to swallow the bait every time. This is quite fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony P
    He is out fake newsing the fake news media.
    Errrr, ya mean a double-conspiracy conspiracy? The Donald has done it again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony P View Post
    Trump has been manipulating the media from day one.
    I used to think he was just crazy...now I'm not so sure. He's a smart guy, much smarter than the media is giving him credit for...
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony P View Post
    Trump has been manipulating the media from day one. He has mastered them actually. So, when he came out with the "cease and desist" order, my antennae went up. He HAD to know that would cause the book's instant success. I wonder if this whole thing is just another rope-a-dope to keep the leftist media distracted.

    Think about it. Would we have gotten ANWAR and the end of the Obamacare mandate in the tax cut bill if the left wasn't distracted with the Russia collusion nonsense? Maybe, Trump will use this distraction to get the Wall funded. I would not be surprised if this book provides some good cover for Trump and Washington. I called it a gift the day I heard about it. I think I am right.

    I think Trump is throwing fake bones to the fake news media to keep them way out of the loop. Meanwhile the Trump agenda is rolling on in full force. He is out fake newsing the fake news media. Their abject hatred forces them to swallow the bait every time. This is quite fun to watch.
    You are correct. Trump is a master of leaving bread crumbs for the MSM. Usually they go around in a circle. It's actually entertaining to watch those sour pusses ensnare themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    I used to think he was just crazy...now I'm not so sure. He's a smart guy, much smarter than the media is giving him credit for...
    He just said the US had sold Norway F-52 fighter jets during a joint press conference with Prime Minister Erna Solberg on Wednesday.

    He sounds a bit dyslexic if you ask me. Are you sure he didn't mean F-35s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    I used to think he was just crazy...now I'm not so sure. He's a smart guy, much smarter than the media is giving him credit for...
    Well, he didn't build a business empire by accident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athanasius View Post
    Well, he didn't build a business empire by accident
    Right, exactly. Crazy like a fox.
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberseeker View Post
    He just said the US had sold Norway F-52 fighter jets during a joint press conference with Prime Minister Erna Solberg on Wednesday.

    He sounds a bit dyslexic if you ask me. Are you sure he didn't mean F-35s?
    Now it's ok to mock the learning disabled?
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberseeker View Post
    He just said the US had sold Norway F-52 fighter jets during a joint press conference with Prime Minister Erna Solberg on Wednesday.

    He sounds a bit dyslexic if you ask me. Are you sure he didn't mean F-35s?
    Maybe he was remembering the time Obama claimed we had 52 states?
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    The F-52 is a jet from Advanced Warfare (Call of Duty). Speech writer trolling him?

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