So... your position is in defending that Judas was at one time saved, and then lost his salvation -- am I correct? And you are basing this on that he was one of the twelve?
And you are also stating that because Jesus gave them authority [not power], but authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every kind of disease and every kind of sickness, you are claiming that they are the one doing this -- because they are saved? [by the way, God will allow [dare I say give] satan and the antichrist power in the last days to perform signs and wonders as well... but that is another topic for another thread... ]
So as one of the twelve, what can be said of Judas? Do we know how he became a disciple? Do we know how many demons he casted out? How many people did he witnessed to? No -- we don’t know either way… all we know is that he is one of the 12 and that Jesus used the disciples to proclaim to the region that Jesus has come, and in doing so Jesus gave the 12 the authority in doing so, but the work was and is always of and by God.
This does not mean that they had to be “saved” to do God’s will, it means that they were given God’s will to do. Nothing more. So assuming that Judas or any disciple at the time were saved is an assumption… but we know that they all later questioned their faith at the last table, for they all were in the same condition in their own mind.
So casting out demons is not anyone’s work but God’s -- and we know that God will use even a donkey if he had to do His will… so I see no difference in the vehicle He uses to work through…. Judas followed Jesus with his feet, but his heart was not even close in following and submitting to Him. So giving them authority is not entrusting Himself in my book... for this was not a sign that they were saved, but that the Christ had come and is among the people.
John called Judas a thief, for he stole money from the treasury for himself. He was a betrayer, he was an accuser, and he was always self-serving
No, I see scripture stating very clearly that Jesus loved Judas and gave trust to him, but Judas, and yes having his own thoughts and will, was self-serving always and equally was used by God to be an implement to send Jesus to the cross, as it was told would happen in scripture…
Humbling, ain't it?
PS... Consider the following, that way before Judas' denial, Jesus called Judas a devil, and yet He chose him... For salvation or for what other reasoning? This leads me to say that Jesus saw Judas' heart from beginning to end...
65 And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."
66 As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.
67 So Jesus said to the twelve, "You do not want to go away also, do you?"
68 Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.
69 "We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God."
70 Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?"
71 Now He meant Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray Him.