Originally Posted by ShirleyFord
describing our old sinful nature that the Bible sometimes refers to the flesh. We are commanded to continually die to the flesh and crucify it. Paul said, "I die daily." He couldn't have meant that he died daily physically. He couldn't have meant that he died spiritually. He had been made alive spiritually from spiritual death through the new birth when God saved him and His Spirit moved into Paul's spirit.
No, Paul is referring to sanctification.
This is merely a case of relying upon a poor translation rather than really studying and undrstanding what was said in the original langauge.
Have you ever heard of modern doctrines that teach something about "dying to self" or something similar? It may sound intriguing but is it scriptural?
1Cr 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
1Cr 15:32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we die.
They might use these verses and suggest that Paul "died" to his carnal self etc but is that really what Paul was teaching?
(ALT) [I affirm] by my boasting [or, pride] in you* which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily [or, every day I am in danger of death].
(CEV) If the dead are not going to be raised to life, what will people do who are being baptized for them? Why are they being baptized for those dead people? And why do we always risk our lives and face death every day? The pride that I have in you because of Christ Jesus our Lord is what makes me say this. What do you think I gained by fighting wild animals in Ephesus? If the dead are not raised to life, "Let's eat and drink. Tomorrow we die."
(GNB) My friends, I face death every day! The pride I have in you, in our life in union with Christ Jesus our Lord, makes me declare this.
(GW) Brothers and sisters, I swear to you on my pride in you which Christ Jesus our Lord has given me: I face death every day.
(ISV) I face death every day! That is as certain, brothers, as it is that I am proud of you in Christ Jesus our Lord.
(MSG) I look death in the face practically every day I live. Do you think I'd do this if I wasn't convinced of your resurrection and mine as guaranteed by the resurrected Messiah Jesus?
(NLT) If the dead will not be raised, then what point is there in people being baptized for those who are dead? Why do it unless the dead will someday rise again? And why should we ourselves be continually risking our lives, facing death hour by hour? For I swear, dear brothers and sisters, I face death daily. This is as certain as my pride in what the Lord Jesus Christ has done in you. And what value was there in fighting wild beasts-those men of Ephesus*-if there will be no resurrection from the dead? If there is no resurrection, "Let's feast and get drunk, for tomorrow we die!"
Its pretty simple. Paul was merely saying he faced death on a daily basis and he wouldn't be doing that if he didn't truly believe that he would be resurrected after dying. If there was no afterlife, then there would be no reason to risk his life so much.
I Corinthians 15:32 "If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die."
Paul is quoting from Isaiah 22:13; "And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: "let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die."
This was at a time when men did fight beasts in the arena, and they fought for their very lives. Paul is saying that if He didn't believe that Christ was raised from the dead, his life would have little more importance that the sweet victory that came from one of these fights. It would be a time of eating, drinking and making merry for when you died that would be it. But he says that that is not the case.
Christ did die and He is resurrected, and there is a purpose for facing death in preaching the gospel. It is worth it all.
While the concept of symbolically "dying" to your own personal desires is a valid concept it is not what Paul was talking about in these verses.