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Do you reject Athanasius, then? Do you accept Eusebius and Chrysostom then? Do you really accept and reject all Church Fathers based on where they...

The argument is that the Church Fathers were in basic disagreement that the 70 Weeks prophecy was completed in the time of Christ. This means that...

Tertullian argues that Christ is the Anointed One, fulfilling the prophecy of the 70 Weeks. It is in the prophecy of the 70 Weeks that the AoD is...

Regrettably, I'm not gifted with the art of fast typing and therefore try where possible to avoid lengthy articles. I don't need to address each and...

Yes but ... You are supposed to apply your own judgment, not rules collected from people on the internet. I suggest you are talking to a tare and...

Near miss CME. A few years ago, we were all going about our daily business, blissfully unaware that our planet almost plunged into global...

So if someone came up to you and asked, "Where is God," you would send them away without an answer because they are "tares"?

There will be a new Temple in Jerusalem. Ezekiel 40-47 proves it. The Shekinah Glory will return into it. Ezekiel 43:1-4 The Anti-Christ leader of...

I pointed out yesterday that Jewishness is an ethnicity, ergo, there's no such thing as an ex-Jew. An observation you seem to have ignored. You might...

As I said, the "specifics" are unimportant with respect to peripheral issues. What matters, in this discussion, is whether the *majority* of Church...

Yesterday for ch. 11, I meant to post about the Lord's Prayer because this year it has kept coming up from me, and I learn new things each time....

Well, this is something for me to investigate more thoroughly. But my point is not that Clement were perfectly right, or "uncontaminated" by bad...

^... that is, His Olivet Discourse (not covering the Subject of "Rapture") is all about His Second Coming to the earth and the promised and...

At the time Jesus spoke His Olivet Discourse, He had not yet disclosed anything about "Rapture," but He HAD ALREADY spoken to His disciples about...

Nope. The AC reigns for 42 months, which could be longer than 1260 days or a bit shorter as we don't know how much of the 42nd month he will reign. ...

The immediate problem with that view still is the misapplication of the timing of 2 Peter 3:10-11 about God's consuming fire destroying man's works...

Actually he is. Nope, doesn't align in the slightest. The 2W prophesy for the DURATION of the SECOND woe as stated in Revelation 11:14 However...

The signs Jesus gave in His Olivet discourse is for His Church. That is who He was speaking to there on the Mount of Olives, i.e., His Apostles, part...

You said that I was REQUIRING "absolute agreement" which I denied. I didn't say you were claiming it. However I WAS highlighting that you don't even...

Sounds like Greek philosophy to me, which is what the Alexandria school often employed in their 'spiritualization' abuse of Scripture.

For those who truly understand our Lord Jesus' meaning at the end of Luke 17 when His disciples asked Him "Where, Lord?" those would be 'taken' to: ...

Logic means keeping to the context of the Scripture, which you are not doing. The event of God's two witnesses prophesying for the last 1260 days...

Ireneaus, one of the early Church fathers in 180 A.D., had a different view about the Daniel 9 abomination being fulfilled than what those of the...

I'm not sure there is a real basis for a NT temple at all! But the Antichrist does reign for 1260 days--I think we can all agree on that? Don't...

And yet ANOTHER quote from the school at Alexandria! Anyone seeing the pattern of choice here by randyk???

I have just ONE question for you. If the Books and Throne Judgment took place BEFORE the Beast was cast into the lake of fire according to you, who...

Another early writing from the Alexandria, Egypt school. Treat with a grain of salt, just like Clement.

The early Christian writings that came out of the Alexandria school should be treated with a grain of salt, since they were subject to the many pagan...

I *never* said that there was *absolute agreement* among *all Church Fathers* that the 70 Weeks were completely fulfilled in the general time of...

My focus is Dan 7 whose event is not in chronology. 1. The GWTJ is seen in v -10. You falsely claimed the judgment is before the onset of the...

There is nothing in Tertullian's quote above that affirms that all the Dan.9 Scripture, or even the "abomination of desolation" event Jesus quoted...

i would show you but the server is too busy.. Jude

This is a legitimate question, but not the issue in this thread. I'm not addressing it because the bigger issue is on agreement that the 70 Weeks was...

December 12 = LUKE 12

God also speaks through circumstances. How do we respond to circumstances? 1. Know His Word. 2. Pray. 3. Trust that the outcome is according...

Nowhere. .

Where in Scripture is this stated? Aristarkos

It all works for me. I'll let others decide what they want to believe about it. To say it makes no sense is true only for you, because you are...

What you're claiming is "bizarre" here is based on your playing loose with the facts. I did *not* say I *know* what Jesus told his Disciples on the...

There is NO requirement for ABSOLUTE agreement on everything. What IS a requirement is that when you say they AGREE on a SPECIFIC thing, that there...

this don't make sense at all. if a child of God perceives a "tare" he is surly advise by the Lord Jesus to not only perceive the "tare" but to let...

The above is NOT putting it into order. You have simply quoted ALL three without putting it into something which makes sense. You then realised you...

I say it is "sneaky" of you because you know perfectly well that none of us have absolute agreement on everything. So when you say there is "zero...

YOUR entire view is BIZARRE. The evidence IS your view. YOU claim Jesus needed to explain what the AoD was to the disciples, and that it was...