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Well, this is something for me to investigate more thoroughly. But my point is not that Clement were perfectly right, or "uncontaminated" by bad...

^... that is, His Olivet Discourse (not covering the Subject of "Rapture") is all about His Second Coming to the earth and the promised and...

At the time Jesus spoke His Olivet Discourse, He had not yet disclosed anything about "Rapture," but He HAD ALREADY spoken to His disciples about...

Nope. The AC reigns for 42 months, which could be longer than 1260 days or a bit shorter as we don't know how much of the 42nd month he will reign. ...

The immediate problem with that view still is the misapplication of the timing of 2 Peter 3:10-11 about God's consuming fire destroying man's works...

Actually he is. Nope, doesn't align in the slightest. The 2W prophesy for the DURATION of the SECOND woe as stated in Revelation 11:14 However...

The signs Jesus gave in His Olivet discourse is for His Church. That is who He was speaking to there on the Mount of Olives, i.e., His Apostles, part...

You said that I was REQUIRING "absolute agreement" which I denied. I didn't say you were claiming it. However I WAS highlighting that you don't even...

Sounds like Greek philosophy to me, which is what the Alexandria school often employed in their 'spiritualization' abuse of Scripture.

For those who truly understand our Lord Jesus' meaning at the end of Luke 17 when His disciples asked Him "Where, Lord?" those would be 'taken' to: ...

Logic means keeping to the context of the Scripture, which you are not doing. The event of God's two witnesses prophesying for the last 1260 days...

Ireneaus, one of the early Church fathers in 180 A.D., had a different view about the Daniel 9 abomination being fulfilled than what those of the...

I'm not sure there is a real basis for a NT temple at all! But the Antichrist does reign for 1260 days--I think we can all agree on that? Don't...

And yet ANOTHER quote from the school at Alexandria! Anyone seeing the pattern of choice here by randyk???

I have just ONE question for you. If the Books and Throne Judgment took place BEFORE the Beast was cast into the lake of fire according to you, who...

Another early writing from the Alexandria, Egypt school. Treat with a grain of salt, just like Clement.

The early Christian writings that came out of the Alexandria school should be treated with a grain of salt, since they were subject to the many pagan...

I *never* said that there was *absolute agreement* among *all Church Fathers* that the 70 Weeks were completely fulfilled in the general time of...

My focus is Dan 7 whose event is not in chronology. 1. The GWTJ is seen in v -10. You falsely claimed the judgment is before the onset of the...

There is nothing in Tertullian's quote above that affirms that all the Dan.9 Scripture, or even the "abomination of desolation" event Jesus quoted...

i would show you but the server is too busy.. Jude