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Yes, I don't agree with them. I think this prophecy--the prophecy of the 70 Weeks--had to do with the 1st Coming of Christ--not the 2nd Coming! So I...

Ps 78:15 He clave the rocks in the wilderness, and gave drink as the great depths.

No, it is everlasting. Heb 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through...

The Jews seam to hold the 9th of AV (August) as the date of the destruction of both the temple but the Jewish historian Josephus holds both dates as...

You know I love you, man, but I just can't tell a lie. Maybe you don't believe the NT Scriptures, and I can understand that. But in our Bible it was...

I have another way to prove you wrong. Try to keep an open mind on this: Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven...

Thanks! Yes, lots of symbols in Revelation. The riders on the horses can kill a man and exercise power over the earth. So it can be...

You know I love you, man, but I just can't tell a lie. Maybe you don't believe the NT Scriptures, and I can understand that. But in our Bible it was...

The LOF is "in" the Earth according to scripture...perhaps that's a dimensional thing, but it is located Earthward. This doesn't say they are...

I not sure if anyone has ever asked you why here but why do you think God allowed the temple to be destroyed and on the exact same date as the former...

Rev 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that...

Do you beleive that Jesus even existed in reality? Or this even in question The NT talks allot about him, as do some secular sources. I...

What? You don't think it's true that Fenris is a friendly guy?

Yes I inserted days between the 69th week and the 70th. Note many insert unknown years yet to be from Christ's death till his return. My...

Thanks for the honest. Do you find it interesting or odd that God asked Abraham to sacrifice his own son? . Do you see any parallels ?

OK. Let's pretend that I accept the NT as being absolutely correct (obviously I do not. But pretend). It wasn't "the Jews" that killed Jesus, it was...

I don't see it. But the point here is that Adam and Noah were not Jews, and couldn't have believed as Jews or Christians did, because those bibles...

Bold above. The Romans carried out the deed at the request of the Jews, don’t forget that part of the story my friend. :rolleyes:

OK. You know what? I can't ask for more than that. God bless.

That is not true. They can be interpreted as pertaining to Jesus, most certainly. Is that the only way to read them? Or even the most straightforward...

I can only speak for me, I see your viewpoint, I just disagree that it’s truth. On a Christian forum, you have to expect people to stand up for...

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It was the Romans who killed Jesus, my friend. A religion is allowed to make rulings on what is and isn't within it's orthodoxy. I don't see...

I assume my arguments are valid as you did not address them. So I will answer your (very valid) queries only. We are left on this earth for three...

There is atonement for some intentional sins in the OT. The trespass offering atoned for some of these intentional sins: Leviticus 6:1 WEB Yahweh...

These souls were given a long white robe, so it's not simply blood that's talking. (Revelation 6:11)

I think Jesus was forsaken, but not separated from God. You think God forsook the Man Jesus, but you are saying here that He forsook the Son , Jesus....

So Jesus in not found in Genesis or Exodus and Abraham has no connection to Jesus in anyway?

Yes past, using apocalyptic language. ( which contain hyperbole ) same as the BOR. Here is a really neat article showing a different side of...

You know, I don't expect anybody here to agree with me. And I'm fine with that. But I find it simply baffling that so few people here even try to...

The purpose is not to make something easier, but more rational. The 70 Weeks Prophecy is complex, and I'm not glossing over that. It is indeed...

Adam and Noah weren't Jews. Abraham couldn't possibly we waiting for Jesus because the bible didn't even exist in his day. But let's ignore all that....

Posturing is a sign of desperation

To act under a law that is not required in NT theology is, in my opinion, a form of legalism. If you want to give to the church, God bless you. Just...