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Zorgblar
Dec 31st 2007, 07:12 AM
In the book of acts in chapter 12 it mentions a man named peter that escaped jail with the help of an angel and in one part of acts he goes to someone's house and knocks on their door and when someone in the house sees him they tell the other people in the house that it's peter and they reply by saying it's not peter and that it must be his angel.What did they mean that it was his angel?

Zorgblar
Dec 31st 2007, 08:19 AM
Isn't anybody going to reply to my post?

diffangle
Dec 31st 2007, 03:24 PM
Look at these verses...

Act 12:1 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Act&chapter=12&verse=1&version=kjv#1)śNow about that time Herod the king stretched forth [his] hands to vex certain of the church.

Act 12:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Act&chapter=12&verse=2&version=kjv#2)And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

Herod had set his mind on persecuting the church starting with the killing of the apostle James.


Act 12:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Act&chapter=12&verse=3&version=kjv#3)And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Seeing how popular the move of killing the Apostle James made him, he then proceeds to take the Apostle Peter in order to deliver him up for death too.


Act 12:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Act&chapter=12&verse=6&version=kjv#6)And when Herod would have brought him forth, the same night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains: and the keepers before the door kept the prison.

"When Herod would have brought him forth" means that the time had arrived for Peter to be delivered up for his death, since the time had come for that, the people in the house of Mary probably had assumed that he had been killed and his angel/messenger was appearing to the damsel who came to the door.



Mat 22:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Mat&chapter=22&verse=30&version=kjv#30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

AlainaJ
Dec 31st 2007, 04:27 PM
In the book of acts in chapter 12 it mentions a man named peter that escaped jail with the help of an angel and in one part of acts he goes to someone's house and knocks on their door and when someone in the house sees him they tell the other people in the house that it's peter and they reply by saying it's not peter and that it must be his angel.What did they mean that it was his angel?
The people didn't beleive it was him...it is like us saying it must be his ghost, becuase there is no way he could be here.

Acts.12

.[3] And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
[4] And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
[5] Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.
[6] And when Herod would have brought him forth, the same night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains: and the keepers before the door kept the prison.
[7] And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands.
[8] And the angel said unto him, Gird thyself, and bind on thy sandals. And so he did. And he saith unto him, Cast thy garment about thee, and follow me.
[9] And he went out, and followed him; and wist not that it was true which was done by the angel; but thought he saw a vision.
[10] When they were past the first and the second ward, they came unto the iron gate that leadeth unto the city; which opened to them of his own accord: and they went out, and passed on through one street; and forthwith the angel departed from him.
[11] And when Peter was come to himself, he said, Now I know of a surety, that the Lord hath sent his angel, and hath delivered me out of the hand of Herod, and from all the expectation of the people of the Jews.
[12] And when he had considered the thing, he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, whose surname was Mark; where many were gathered together praying.
[13] And as Peter knocked at the door of the gate, a damsel came to hearken, named Rhoda.
[14] And when she knew Peter's voice, she opened not the gate for gladness, but ran in, and told how Peter stood before the gate.
[15] And they said unto her, Thou art mad. But she constantly affirmed that it was even so. Then said they, It is his angel. ( They probally thought he was dead)
[16] But Peter continued knocking: and when they had opened the door, and saw him, they were astonished.
[17] But he, beckoning unto them with the hand to hold their peace, declared unto them how the Lord had brought him out of the prison. And he said, Go shew these things unto James, and to the brethren. And he departed, and went into another place.

Teke
Dec 31st 2007, 04:34 PM
In the book of acts in chapter 12 it mentions a man named peter that escaped jail with the help of an angel and in one part of acts he goes to someone's house and knocks on their door and when someone in the house sees him they tell the other people in the house that it's peter and they reply by saying it's not peter and that it must be his angel.What did they mean that it was his angel?

That they believed it was his angel indicates that 1)they believed in angels 2) in angels assigned to people, 3) that some point of recognition existed between a person and his angel.
IOW Christians believe in guardian angels. :saint:

Frances
Dec 31st 2007, 05:52 PM
What did they mean that it was his angel?

The people in the house had been praying for Peter's release from prison, but with so little faith that when he actualy appeared they didn't believe at first that it was him. Saying it was his angel was a 'figure of speach' . . . similar to someone today saying 'it must be his double'.

jeffweeder
Jan 1st 2008, 06:33 AM
Its funny, as she left him outside once she saw him at the gate and ran back inside.

Peter kept on knocking, as he must have felt vunerable.....just a funny picture.

Steven3
Jan 1st 2008, 07:39 AM
Isn't anybody going to reply to my post?It probably means exactly what it looks like it means, namely that some Jews at this period believed people had guardian angels who looked like them. Though this superstition isn't well documented in Jewish texts (eg I don't think it's in Ginzberg, Legends of the Jews, and if it isn't there it probably isn't anywhere). Someone will correct me if they know better.