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arunangelo
Apr 1st 2008, 02:30 AM
How to find God ?

Most people know that there is a God. However, He is abstract to them; because, they do not know what He looks like, and have never seen Him, felt Him or heard Him. Many believe that He is a spirit. However, they are not even sure what a spirit is. Fortunately, it is not difficult to find Him, because, He reaches out to us and is knocking on every human heart, begging us to allow Him to enter our heart, and bring us peace and joy. God is Spirit and Love. His Spirit fills the Universe. Spirit is like a force or energy, which we cannot see; but feels its effect. While force and energy affects only material objects spirit, also affect thoughts and minds. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of love that lead human minds and thoughts to acts of sacrificial love, and the energy that sustains human spirit to stay faithful to unconditional love during the most painful trials in life. It brings sublime and enduring love in human hearts.

We often feel godless and do not hear God’s voice, because, our minds and thoughts are clouded by the business of the world. The world is full of selfishness. Selfishness is the source of evil in the world. Selfishness leads to competition, deceit, lust, betrayal and fear. Fear leads to hate, jealousy and revenge. All of them lead to turmoil in our heart and in our relationships with others. To hear and feel God we have to be quiet, free our self of all desires of pleasures and open our heart to His love. To free our selves of the desires of pleasure is very important, because, such desires tend to block our heart from being fully open to His voice. Most importantly, because God is love, we must meditate on His love which He expressed by becoming one of us and dying on the cross for our sins. This will fill us with joy and peace, His words become real to us and we will see His presence in the acts of unconditional love by human beings.

When the storms of earthly misfortunes destroys our stability and security, and there is no one to help us, we feel very alone and helpless. Even our prayers and meditations seem to become sterile and fruitless. Our cries seem like, they go unheard and our faith begins to crumble. Even our friends begin to say, “Why doesn’t God help him”. However, we should not fear, because, this is the time when God in our heart can triumph, because, when we are the weakest, we are the strongest. When everything fails, we become very helpless. This helps us to surrender our will completely to God. This makes us the strongest, because, we allow God to be in charge of our life. Furthermore, when we are humble, we care about others, because, pride does not interfere in our effort to express /which is natural in us-which is love. In other words, the humility within us allows unconditional love (which is God) to show forth.

joztok
Apr 1st 2008, 05:59 AM
This sounds really New Age.
Spirits aren't forces- they are beings.

The Holy Spirit is a person. He is not a force. He can perform signs and wonders- but it is not an 'energy' or 'force'.

As Christian's we can receive unconditional love- as a result God can emit from us His unconditional love. However. It's HIS love, not our love that is unconditional. Just wanted to add clarity here...

Teke
Apr 1st 2008, 01:47 PM
This sounds really New Age.
Spirits aren't forces- they are beings.

The Holy Spirit is a person. He is not a force. He can perform signs and wonders- but it is not an 'energy' or 'force'.

As Christian's we can receive unconditional love- as a result God can emit from us His unconditional love. However. It's HIS love, not our love that is unconditional. Just wanted to add clarity here...

I think the OP is very good and straightforward. Doesn't sound new age to me, but very Trinity centered.

The Holy Spirit is not a "person" in the sense you are thinking, but in the manner of the "nature" of the thing.

Spirits are both forces and beings. Paul explains them to us in Ephesians 6, see verse 12. They are forces in that they have energies associated with them, and they are beings, though bodiless beings, not corporeal created beings as we are.

Athanasius
Apr 1st 2008, 03:19 PM
I have to agree with Joztok; the OP's post is extremely New Age.

Ephesians 6:12
12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

I don't see anything in this verse suggesting spirits are both 'forces and beings'. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but if you're trying to say this teaches the dual nature of spirits, you've read your views into the text.

Teke
Apr 1st 2008, 05:03 PM
Ephesians 6:12
12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

I don't see anything in this verse suggesting spirits are both 'forces and beings'. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but if you're trying to say this teaches the dual nature of spirits, you've read your views into the text.

I am not suggesting any duality of spirits. Angels are also spirits to us, as they are not corporeal beings as we are. IOW there is a difference in their state of being and ours.

Athanasius
Apr 1st 2008, 06:28 PM
I completely agree with that. All I'm trying to say is that Ephesians 6:12 doesn't suggest that spirits are 'forces' or 'beings' from, just not corporeal. Nicpicky, I think.

Semi-tortured
Apr 1st 2008, 09:05 PM
I've actually thought about God in this concept (I'm not saying I agree with it, but I've contemplated it before). I wouldn't call Him a force. That takes away the person of God. The OP's post raises all sorts of New Age red flags to be sure, but I think you can take what he said and get some good out of it as long as you don't concentrate on his abstract attempts at explanations that we as humans have spent our entire existences trying to explain and understand.

Teke
Apr 1st 2008, 09:53 PM
I completely agree with that. All I'm trying to say is that Ephesians 6:12 doesn't suggest that spirits are 'forces' or 'beings' from, just not corporeal. Nicpicky, I think.

Eph. 6:12 clearly states "spiritual forces", where else would we reason these forces come from except spiritual beings (and if their not us corporeal beings). Certainly they wouldn't be evil forces from God (as in "of God", as He is Spirit also). A distinction is necessary.:saint:

Has ancient thought become "new age". I think not.;)