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Gloryseeker
Apr 29th 2008, 02:18 AM
Starting this thread for anyone to post first- or second-hand accounts of the miraculous revival that is reported to have been occurring over the past 4 weeks in Lakeland, FL.

Here are a few links to stories and info sources:

Local Lakeland article (http://lakelandlocal.com/2008/04/the-web-is-again-abuzz-with-ta.html) about what's happening.
Guy's YouTube video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZkTXh7UUAU) talking about what's happening.
Another Youtube aobut Rivival breaking out in Holland (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jM4FbLpuIDk) right now, also.
A link to information about Tood Bentley (http://firekeep.com/firekeep_worship_podcast/2008/04/23/lakeland-fl-outpouring-revival-miracles-todd-bentley/), who appears to be the Pastor leading the rivival.
Here's the link where you can watch the revival live streaming (http://freshfire.ca/) online (warning: It's been crashing a lot due to overloads).

Search Google for "revival Lakeland, FL" for more links and news.

Personally, I'm stuck in Detroit on a consulting project until May 10th, but if it's still continuing then, I'm heading straight down myself!

Let's hear from our members: anyone been down to Lakeland in the last 4 weeks? What are the reports coming out of FL? I've also heard reports that revival may be breaking out in other cities. . . .

BrckBrln
Apr 29th 2008, 03:14 AM
I think my mom and brother are going down there soon. I know my brother talked about it and Todd Bentley.

Traci
Apr 29th 2008, 06:31 AM
It's awesome what's going on down there. Revival is breaking out all over the place..this is just the beginning of a great revival that is going to sweep this whole nation.

Traci
Apr 29th 2008, 06:32 AM
I do have a few friends down at that one, and one of them was just healed of hepatitis c and got the doctors to confirm it.

9Marksfan
Apr 29th 2008, 11:39 AM
Hmm - aren't folk aware of where Rob and Wendy Alec are coming from? And why does John Arnott need to come and give it his blessing? We all remember the nonsense that happened in the mid-90s as a result of the last (Toronto) "blessing" - this is not genuine revival - where's the preaching of the word? That's ALWAYS present!

God is not the author of confusion - the Holy Spirit will not come in revival where the Word of God is not honoured, preached faithfully and followed.

Eaglenester
Apr 29th 2008, 12:48 PM
:thumbsup:

Hmm - aren't folk aware of where Rob and Wendy Alec are coming from? And why does John Arnott need to come and give it his blessing? We all remember the nonsense that happened in the mid-90s as a result of the last (Toronto) "blessing" - this is not genuine revival - where's the preaching of the word? That's ALWAYS present!

God is not the author of confusion - the Holy Spirit will not come in revival where the Word of God is not honoured, preached faithfully and followed.
:amen:

Just because healing is taking place does not mean Yahweh is at work


“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.
“Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’


(Matthew 7:21-23)


In the Greek that word "many" means majority, over half.

Over half of those "doing mighty works" claiming "in The name of Messiah" will hear
I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness
from The Messiah.

So then if they know not Messiah, then who is it they think they know as Messiah as source of the power for their mighty works?????

deceiving spirits :cry:


Is there true repentance going on?

Are the people overcoming, walking in victory over sin?

Are the people being obedient to Yahshua and His commandments?

Are the people going out and proclaiming Yahshua and His Word?


And when they had prayed, the place where they came together was shaken.
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of Elohim with boldness.
And the group of those who believed were of one heart and one being.
And no one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they had all in common.
And with great power the emissaries gave witness to the resurrection of the Master Yahshua and great favour was upon them all.
For there was not anyone needy among them, for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of what was sold, and laid them at the feet of the emissaries, and they distributed to each as anyone had need.


(Acts 4:31-35)


Here's a Scriptural example of what TRUE revival looks like.

Brother Mark
Apr 29th 2008, 01:04 PM
I think we need to be careful not to speak against what God might be doing and we need to be careful not to endorse what the enemy might be doing.

9Marksfan
Apr 29th 2008, 02:29 PM
:thumbsup:

:amen:

Just because healing is taking place does not mean Yahweh is at work


“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.
“Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’


(Matthew 7:21-23)


In the Greek that word "many" means majority, over half.

Over half of those "doing mighty works" claiming "in The name of Messiah" will hear
I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness
from The Messiah.

So then if they know not Messiah, then who is it they think they know as Messiah as source of the power for their mighty works?????

deceiving spirits :cry:


Is there true repentance going on?

Are the people overcoming, walking in victory over sin?

Are the people being obedient to Yahshua and His commandments?

Are the people going out and proclaiming Yahshua and His Word?


And when they had prayed, the place where they came together was shaken.
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of Elohim with boldness.
And the group of those who believed were of one heart and one being.
And no one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they had all in common.
And with great power the emissaries gave witness to the resurrection of the Master Yahshua and great favour was upon them all.
For there was not anyone needy among them, for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of what was sold, and laid them at the feet of the emissaries, and they distributed to each as anyone had need.


(Acts 4:31-35)


Here's a Scriptural example of what TRUE revival looks like.


Amen - thanks for your encouragement.

Brother Mark
Apr 29th 2008, 02:31 PM
Is there true repentance going on?

Are the people overcoming, walking in victory over sin?

Are the people being obedient to Yahshua and His commandments?

Are the people going out and proclaiming Yahshua and His Word?

Great questions. Is this occurring in Florida?

9Marksfan
Apr 29th 2008, 02:31 PM
I think we need to be careful not to speak against what God might be doing and we need to be careful not to endorse what the enemy might be doing.

But we are to test the spirits to see whether they are of God or not - we are to PROVE all things - I looked into the Toronto phenomenon in considerable detail in the mid-90s - itr was really shocking how many occult practices and false teaching I discovered - and the kind of lives its proponents lead - "by their fruits (life AND teaching) you will know them....."

How we all need discernment in these days of deception.....

Brother Mark
Apr 29th 2008, 02:33 PM
But we are to test the spirits to see whether they are of God or not - we are to PROVE all things - I looked into the Toronto phenomenon in considerable detail in the mid-90s - itr was really shocking how many occult practices and false teaching I discovered - and the kind of lives its proponents lead - "by their fruits (life AND teaching) you will know them....."

How we all need discernment in these days of deception.....

And yet, I know of one who was miraculously delivered from homosexuality from an offshoot of that revival and is now walking with Jesus and praising his name in her deliverance. Was that the enemy?

Eaglenester
Apr 29th 2008, 02:55 PM
And yet, I know of one who was miraculously delivered from homosexuality from an offshoot of that revival and is now walking with Jesus and praising his name in her deliverance. Was that the enemy?

Yahweh can work in the midst of the enemy.

Yahweh uses war and serial killers to bring people to Him - that doesn't mean the war and serial killers are of Him, or that we should support them because He worked thru them.

The example you gave just shows HOW mighty Elohim is that He can work where the enemy is working decption.

Brother Mark
Apr 29th 2008, 03:03 PM
Yahweh can work in the midst of the enemy.

Yahweh uses war and serial killers to bring people to Him - that doesn't mean the war and serial killers are of Him, or that we should support them because He worked thru them.

The example you gave just shows HOW mighty Elohim is that He can work where the enemy is working decption.

And the enemy can work where God is working as well. That is what happened at the cross.

In the end, we need to watch and pray and see what fruit comes from it. And like men, movements can start pure and end in deception. The enemy does not ignore a move of God neither does God ignore a move of the enemy. Rarely should we be shocked to see both working in a situation.

Eaglenester
Apr 29th 2008, 03:19 PM
And the enemy can work where God is working as well. That is what happened at the cross.

In the end, we need to watch and pray and see what fruit comes from it. And like men, movements can start pure and end in deception. The enemy does not ignore a move of God neither does God ignore a move of the enemy. Rarely should we be shocked to see both working in a situation.

Fruit takes time to bear

If a movement truely starts of Elohim, it will no go off course easily.

Toronto - once time allowed the fruit to be shown - proved NOT of Elohim.

The enemy can and does do healings and miracles.

RoadWarrior
Apr 29th 2008, 03:19 PM
Hmm - aren't folk aware of where Rob and Wendy Alec are coming from? And why does John Arnott need to come and give it his blessing? We all remember the nonsense that happened in the mid-90s as a result of the last (Toronto) "blessing" - this is not genuine revival - where's the preaching of the word? That's ALWAYS present!

God is not the author of confusion - the Holy Spirit will not come in revival where the Word of God is not honoured, preached faithfully and followed.

Hi Marksfan,

Since this is a new subject on the board, perhaps most of us are not aware of where this is coming from. Do you have some information with which to enlighten us?

Thanks.

Brother Mark
Apr 29th 2008, 03:21 PM
Fruit takes time to bear

If a movement truely starts of Elohim, it will no go off course easily.

Toronto - once time allowed the fruit to be shown - proved NOT of Elohim.

The enemy can and does do healings and miracles.

Was mankind truly created and started by God? How long did it take for that move of God to go off course?

No doubt the enemy can do miracles. We are taught that in scripture. But a move that God starts can and does get off track. Sometimes, it doesn't take long either.

ProjectPeter
Apr 29th 2008, 04:14 PM
I moved this out of testimonies and into Anything Goes since there really is no testimony in the OP and this is obviously going to get discussed.


Let me add for the record too... FOLKS CHILL OUT. There is going to be doctrinal differences and that's fine. But let's be very careful with what we say and how we say it.

Diggindeeper
Apr 29th 2008, 05:37 PM
I think, first of all, we need to be careful anytime some people are saying, "Lo, he is in the desert", or "Lo, he is in secret chambers", or "Lo, he is in Lakeland, Florida."

Very often, the speakers have media Public Relations staff who put out all kinds of stuff, telling us about great revivals here and there because the speaker pays his staff to promote them.

That being said, and since I am not a fan of Todd Bently, I'll hush. For now.:rolleyes:

Eaglenester
Apr 30th 2008, 12:55 AM
Was mankind truly created and started by God? How long did it take for that move of God to go off course?

No doubt the enemy can do miracles. We are taught that in scripture. But a move that God starts can and does get off track. Sometimes, it doesn't take long either.

Elohim's plan NEVER got off track.

He knew beforehand what Adam would do, and ALREADY had it worked out for Yahshua to be The Messiah.

Notice those majority that do miricles claiming Messiah's name, that Yahshua says "I NEVER knew you"

They didn't start out doing things by Elohim then later doing them by the enemy.

That applies to the leaders of the Toronto "blessings" and all the other false workers.

Look how that "I NEVER knew you" starts:


"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
You will recognize them by their fruits.
Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit.
A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.


(Matthew 7:15-20)

ProjectPeter
Apr 30th 2008, 01:07 AM
And I want to remind folks... Tread carefully here. Disuss this like grown folk that actually have the love of Jesus in them towards their brethren... even if you think it might be error or truth.

Brother Mark
Apr 30th 2008, 01:09 AM
Elohim's plan NEVER got off track.

I didn't say his plan. Look at how Israel acted after the revival they experienced in coming out of Egypt. Look through the book of Judges and how after God moved things went bad. Many times God has moved and man has polluted the move. Psalms 107 is a great example of how God can move and man can mess it up.


He knew beforehand what Adam would do, and ALREADY had it worked out for Yahshua to be The Messiah.

Notice those majority that do miricles claiming Messiah's name, that Yahshua says "I NEVER knew you"

They didn't start out doing things by Elohim then later doing them by the enemy.

That applies to the leaders of the Toronto "blessings" and all the other false workers.

Look how that "I NEVER knew you" starts:


"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
You will recognize them by their fruits.
Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit.
A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.


(Matthew 7:15-20)

For false prophets, I agree with you. Yet, man has polluted moves of God before and will do so again.

When a man reveals himself to be false, then we can call him false. But do not think that the enemy is not working in God fearing churches today. He can and does.

Eaglenester
Apr 30th 2008, 01:13 AM
I didn't say his plan. Look at how Israel acted after the revival they experienced in coming out of Egypt. Look through the judges and how after God moved things went bad. Many times God has moved and man has polluted the move.



For false prophets, I agree with you. Yet, man has polluted moves of God before and will do so again.

When a man reveals himself to be false, then we can call him false.

Well I consider the leaders of Toronto "blessing", according to their fruit - false.

And now they are becoming involved in this "revival"

And those people fit into the prophet catagory because they are claim to speak for and from "god"

xIRoyal KnightIx
Apr 30th 2008, 01:16 AM
Faith, Hope, and Love; and the greatest of these is Love.

1Cor 13 contains the description of love, please let it abound that we bring no reproach.

Brother Mark
Apr 30th 2008, 01:31 AM
Well I consider the leaders of Toronto "blessing", according to their fruit - false.

And now they are becoming involved in this "revival"

And those people fit into the prophet catagory because they are claim to speak for and from "god"

Did all of Toronto produce bad fruit? I know of some good fruit from there. Was the move perverted eventually? Very well could have been. It would not be the first time that God started something pure that was perverted. I know people that repented from sin and were delivered from deep things through Toronto. You can bet that Satan didn't cast out Satan. It was God that did that.

ProjectPeter
Apr 30th 2008, 01:50 AM
Guys... I am closing this thread for tonight and I will reopen it tomorrow. Please don't freak and I will explain in more detail later. But for now... let this lie and I will as I said reopen it tomorrow some time.