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Colossians 3:17
Jun 6th 2008, 10:58 PM
Or are they the same thing...?

Irene
Jun 6th 2008, 11:01 PM
hell according to STrongs

sheol, underworld, grave, hell, pit

the underworld
Sheol - the OT designation for the abode of the dead
place of no return
without praise of God
wicked sent there for punishment
righteous not abandoned to it
of the place of exile (fig)
of extreme degradation in sin

RogerW
Jun 6th 2008, 11:19 PM
Or are they the same thing...?

Greetings jdu,

Hell is translated from three Greek words.

1. Geenna - of Hebrew origin (1516 and 2011); valley of (the son of) Hinnom; ge-henna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment:--hell.

2. Hades - from 1 (as negative particle) and 1492; properly, unseen, i.e. "Hades" or the place (state) of departed souls:--grave, hell.

3. Tartaroo - from Tartaros (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment:--cast down to hell.

Scripture speaks of those who go to the grave in unbelief as being in hell/geenna. These are waiting silently in the grave (hades/hell) until the Day of Judgment. When Scripture speaks of those who physically die they (their bodies) go down to the grave; ie. hell/hades. Prior to the cross those dying in Christ would go to Abraham's bosom to await fulfillment of the promise of the coming of Christ to resurrect them from the grave/hell/hades. When Scripture speaks of those cast down into the deepest part of the grave (hades) hell, it means those who were reserved for eternal torment prior to the cross. This is the place where the rich man went in the parable of Lazaruz and the rich man. Abraham's bosom no longer exists since the cross, so all who die in Christ go immediately into the presence of the Lord.

Hope this does not further confuse you.

Many Blessings,
RW

RJ Mac
Jun 7th 2008, 03:32 AM
Sheol is Hebrew OT for the realm of the spirits of dead men.
Hades is Greek NT for the realm of the spirits of dead men.

They are one in the same, the Jews believed all men went to Sheol.
the Greeks believed all men went to Hades.

Jesus gives us the first window to understand Hades/Sheol in Lk.16:19ff
There is a place for the righteous, Abraham's bosom and a place for the
wicked, torment. Jesus calls Abraham's bosom Paradise in Lk.23:43;

Jesus takes Paradise to heaven when He ascends Eph.4:8 taking captivity captive.
No one could go to heaven until Jesus first went with His blood. Heb.9:11ff
So now the OT Righteous are in heaven as we see in Heb.12:22ff Rev.4:1ff
Christians when they die can now enter heaven as well. Rev.6:9-11;
Paul calls heaven the 3rd heaven, he also calls it Paradise 2Cor.12:1-4;

So now, if you die and your saved its Heaven bound, if not its Hades bound.

The Greeks also teach there is a pit below Hades and they called it the Abyss.
Peter calls it Tartarus in 2Pe.2:4 (not hell) where only fallen angels are cast.

Come judgment day, the wicked are then cast into GHENNA - HELL
the eternal destiny of wicked men with immortal bodies and angels too.

The Righteous are taken to the New Earth Rev.21:1-5 with the angels,
Christ and men will have immortal bodies.

I know its more than you asked, but I feel things needed to be stated.
Hope it helps.

RJ Mac