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Enoch365
Jun 24th 2008, 09:04 PM
"But when the time had fully come, God sent His only begotten Son..."Gal.4: 4

The difference is both in years and days. According to the Ethiopian calendar,
the current year is 2000, which is clearly Seven (eight) years behind the
Gregorian. The Ethiopian months are also lagging by seven, eight, nine or ten
days depending on where the two calendars' months match. We have 12 months with
30 days each and a 13th month with five or six days. The 13th month is called
"Pagumen" to mean the thirteenth. It is either six or five days whether the year
is leap year. The hours of the day are not named and divided in the same way as
in the European. For example, the European say 12 O'clock (AM) when it is
actually 6 at midday. In the Ethiopian evenings are considered parts of the next
day. In this article, it is attempted to give scriptural background to the 7(8)
years difference in the calendars according to the teachings of the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahedo Church.

The difference lies in determining the exact date of the birth of Christ.
According to Dionasius...

http://www.selamforethiopia.com/ethioC.htm

manichunter
Jun 25th 2008, 05:26 AM
"But when the time had fully come, God sent His only begotten Son..."Gal.4: 4

The difference is both in years and days. According to the Ethiopian calendar,
the current year is 2000, which is clearly Seven (eight) years behind the
Gregorian. The Ethiopian months are also lagging by seven, eight, nine or ten
days depending on where the two calendars' months match. We have 12 months with
30 days each and a 13th month with five or six days. The 13th month is called
"Pagumen" to mean the thirteenth. It is either six or five days whether the year
is leap year. The hours of the day are not named and divided in the same way as
in the European. For example, the European say 12 O'clock (AM) when it is
actually 6 at midday. In the Ethiopian evenings are considered parts of the next
day. In this article, it is attempted to give scriptural background to the 7(8)
years difference in the calendars according to the teachings of the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahedo Church.

The difference lies in determining the exact date of the birth of Christ.
According to Dionasius...

http://www.selamforethiopia.com/ethioC.htm

You are talking cave man to most of us western thinking Christians. These concepts are more eastern in origin and context. They are more closely related to the culture and context of the Scripture however. We westerners would do good to study lost concepts.

servant of Lord
Jun 25th 2008, 06:07 AM
I was watching this man on tv...david rood I think was his name and he was talking about the calendar thing...and some of the stuff he was saying was -well, I thought false prophet-

But, It got me curious...what is this about the calendars..I have no knowledge in this..other then many of what we here in the United states have been lead to believe is not all innocent is pagan..with calendar

But, found it odd that after searching some on internet about this calendar thing..that I came here and saw your thread and some others about calendars...

HuM? looks like I know what I will be studying this week and weeks to come..

DadBurnett
Jun 26th 2008, 04:12 AM
"But when the time had fully come, God sent His only begotten Son..."Gal.4: 4

The difference is both in years and days. According to the Ethiopian calendar,
the current year is 2000, which is clearly Seven (eight) years behind the
Gregorian. The Ethiopian months are also lagging by seven, eight, nine or ten
days depending on where the two calendars' months match. We have 12 months with
30 days each and a 13th month with five or six days. The 13th month is called
"Pagumen" to mean the thirteenth. It is either six or five days whether the year
is leap year. The hours of the day are not named and divided in the same way as
in the European. For example, the European say 12 O'clock (AM) when it is
actually 6 at midday. In the Ethiopian evenings are considered parts of the next
day. In this article, it is attempted to give scriptural background to the 7(8)
years difference in the calendars according to the teachings of the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahedo Church.

The difference lies in determining the exact date of the birth of Christ.
According to Dionasius...

http://www.selamforethiopia.com/ethioC.htm


I understood your question to say “Why” do they differ, not “how” do they differ and I have what is perhaps an oversimplified answer … they were derived from the minds of men. Men/people with different perceptions, different motives and different levels of understanding and knowledge. The “why” of it is kinda-like why we have Fords and Chevys, Oatmeal and Cornflakes, PCs and Macs, NAS and KJ Bibles. Is there a sense of right and wrong in any of this, I don’t think so; its about what works and what does not … and in knowing the difference. I have a sense that you are seeking and trying to make some sort of sense in the differences and I wish you luck. I am curious to see what you and others come up with in this thread. Thanks for bring it up.

Enoch365
Jun 26th 2008, 09:27 PM
I understood your question to say “Why” do they differ, not “how” do they differ and I have what is perhaps an oversimplified answer … they were derived from the minds of men. Men/people with different perceptions, different motives and different levels of understanding and knowledge. The “why” of it is kinda-like why we have Fords and Chevys, Oatmeal and Cornflakes, PCs and Macs, NAS and KJ Bibles. Is there a sense of right and wrong in any of this, I don’t think so; its about what works and what does not … and in knowing the difference. I have a sense that you are seeking and trying to make some sort of sense in the differences and I wish you luck. I am curious to see what you and others come up with in this thread. Thanks for bring it up.


I believe there is difference and only one right and others wrong. There is only one God, One faith(Christianity), One Babtizem.

Jesus is the Door, the Way, the Truth and the Life

The Lord said, "Most assuredly I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber" (Jn 10:1), "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out, and find pasture" (Jn 10:9). "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me" (Jn 14:6). "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing" (Jn 15:5).

These are the words of Our Lord. He is indeed the very essence of truth, for we cannot enter the life of grace except through this door. We cannot walk in the way of virtue except if we take this way. You would stray if you did not put Jesus before your eyes always. Let Him be the door which you enter by. Let Him be the way that you take. Let Him be the truth that you seek. Let Him be the life that you desire to live.

When the poisonous serpents rose against the children of Israel in the wilderness, the Lord ordered Moses to make a bronze serpent and raise it, and everyone who was bitten by a serpent and looked to the bronze serpent would immediately be healed from the poison. This was but a symbol of Our Saviour and Lord Jesus Christ on the cross "and as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life" (Jn 3:14-15). You are now in the wilderness of this world which is filled with many deadly serpents. However if you look to Jesus you will be saved from every harm and as long as you continue to look to Jesus you will not be harmed by any evil, and that serpent of old – meaning Satan – cannot overcome you.

Turn your face then to Christ. Concentrate your gaze and look with the eyes of your mind. Work with all your heart on contemplating the beauty of Jesus. You will then be enlightened with the eternal light, and your heart and being will shine with the ray of Divine light. You will then become more beautiful than the sun and you will find the door of grace open before you and the path of life easier for you.

As you meet with the Lord Jesus then proceed in Him, and walk in His light, and rely upon His righteousness. Let your faith in Him be unshaken, and be steadfast in Him. Make Him a portion of your comfort, and the inheritance of your salvation, and the reward of your glorification in this life, and say with St. Paul, "For to me, to live is Christ" (Phil 1:21).

"For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me" (Gal 2:19-20).

Archdeacon Habib Girgis

DadBurnett
Jun 26th 2008, 11:27 PM
I believe there is difference and only one right and others wrong. There is only one God, One faith(Christianity), One Babtizem.

Jesus is the Door, the Way, the Truth and the Life

The Lord said, "Most assuredly I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber" (Jn 10:1), "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out, and find pasture" (Jn 10:9). "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me" (Jn 14:6). "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing" (Jn 15:5).

These are the words of Our Lord. He is indeed the very essence of truth, for we cannot enter the life of grace except through this door. We cannot walk in the way of virtue except if we take this way. You would stray if you did not put Jesus before your eyes always. Let Him be the door which you enter by. Let Him be the way that you take. Let Him be the truth that you seek. Let Him be the life that you desire to live.

When the poisonous serpents rose against the children of Israel in the wilderness, the Lord ordered Moses to make a bronze serpent and raise it, and everyone who was bitten by a serpent and looked to the bronze serpent would immediately be healed from the poison. This was but a symbol of Our Saviour and Lord Jesus Christ on the cross "and as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life" (Jn 3:14-15). You are now in the wilderness of this world which is filled with many deadly serpents. However if you look to Jesus you will be saved from every harm and as long as you continue to look to Jesus you will not be harmed by any evil, and that serpent of old – meaning Satan – cannot overcome you.

Turn your face then to Christ. Concentrate your gaze and look with the eyes of your mind. Work with all your heart on contemplating the beauty of Jesus. You will then be enlightened with the eternal light, and your heart and being will shine with the ray of Divine light. You will then become more beautiful than the sun and you will find the door of grace open before you and the path of life easier for you.

As you meet with the Lord Jesus then proceed in Him, and walk in His light, and rely upon His righteousness. Let your faith in Him be unshaken, and be steadfast in Him. Make Him a portion of your comfort, and the inheritance of your salvation, and the reward of your glorification in this life, and say with St. Paul, "For to me, to live is Christ" (Phil 1:21).

"For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me" (Gal 2:19-20).

Archdeacon Habib Girgis

Golly gee whizz ... I thought we were talking about calendars here. So then, which calendar is right???

Teke
Jul 14th 2008, 04:22 PM
"But when the time had fully come, God sent His only begotten Son..."Gal.4: 4

The difference is both in years and days. According to the Ethiopian calendar,
the current year is 2000, which is clearly Seven (eight) years behind the
Gregorian. The Ethiopian months are also lagging by seven, eight, nine or ten
days depending on where the two calendars' months match. We have 12 months with
30 days each and a 13th month with five or six days. The 13th month is called
"Pagumen" to mean the thirteenth. It is either six or five days whether the year
is leap year. The hours of the day are not named and divided in the same way as
in the European. For example, the European say 12 O'clock (AM) when it is
actually 6 at midday. In the Ethiopian evenings are considered parts of the next
day. In this article, it is attempted to give scriptural background to the 7(8)
years difference in the calendars according to the teachings of the Ethiopian
Orthodox Tewahedo Church.

The difference lies in determining the exact date of the birth of Christ.
According to Dionasius...

http://www.selamforethiopia.com/ethioC.htm

Birth of Christ or annunciation? It is my understanding the Ethiopian's are trying to calculate the Annunciation.

The calendar issue with eastern Christians, centers around their liturgical cycle of feasts. Calendars are for counting. A couple of basics that man is capable of doing is counting and noting the seasons he lives his life in.

Even Jesus commented on the fact of man's common sense of the seasons in which he lived.

Most liturgical calendars following the pattern seen in scripture, a seasonal calendar, also known as lunisolar. The Julian calendar follows this pattern and is the predominant calendar in the eastern churches. The pinnacle of the liturgical calendar of feasts of the church centers from Pascha (Hebrew Passover), known as Easter is the western churches.
The seasonal feasts are determined by the spring equinox and full moon. Weeks are counted from that point on.