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IPet2_9
Sep 23rd 2008, 02:37 PM
The below Associated Press article, dated yesterday, is from a Russian Jew, who believes he discovered the Jewish capital around the 8th or 9th century AD, near the Caspian Sea. This is already well-known information outside of the U.S., and as you can see, Russian universities are doing extensive formal research on it, with the blessing of the Russian-Jewish Congress:

http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=2556

The editor of whtt.org (a devout Christian) noted that, most likely, it appears that God's chosen people returned to the wrong land.

Saved7
Sep 24th 2008, 11:49 PM
The below Associated Press article, dated yesterday, is from a Russian Jew, who believes he discovered the Jewish capital around the 8th or 9th century AD, near the Caspian Sea. This is already well-known information outside of the U.S., and as you can see, Russian universities are doing extensive formal research on it, with the blessing of the Russian-Jewish Congress:

http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=2556

The editor of whtt.org (a devout Christian) noted that, most likely, it appears that God's chosen people returned to the wrong land.

two questions...one is...what does this have to do with the end times?
and the other is....
no jewish artifacts found as yet in this other place, which was home to jews in a totally different time; as opposed to the tons of jewish artifacts and the old temple evidence in present day Jerusalem;:hmm::hmm: and what makes them think that they returned to the wrong land?????:cool:

IPet2_9
Sep 25th 2008, 01:09 AM
questions...one is...what does this have to do with the end times?

You ask any televangelist, or any dispensationalist: what is the single biggest sign of the 20th century that we are in the End Times? What is their answer?



and the other is....
no jewish artifacts found as yet in this other place, which was home to jews in a totally different time; as opposed to the tons of jewish artifacts and the old temple evidence in present day Jerusalem;:hmm::hmm:

The Khazars were descended from the Tatars and the Monguls. Typical school textbooks refer to these tribes as "barbarians", as in the barbarians who ate away at the Roman Empire and eventually caused it to crumble. In any event, they were nomadic, which is why you would have a harder time finding artifacts on the steppes surrounding the Caucasus.

The old temple evidence is largely irrelevant. The Khazars had nothing to do with the people dwelling in Jerusalem.



and what makes them think that they returned to the wrong land?????:cool:

The alleged "God's chosen people" are CONVERTS. The Khazar Empire, as a nation, converted to Judaism 8th or 9th century AD. It is those descendants whom you see taking over Israel today. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage or espousing a religion (although I would prefer it was Christianity...), it's just that these people are not the descendants of the Israelites.

If it was truly God's will for them to return to their homeland, then their homeland is in the Caucausus mountains--unless you want to say they are "spiritual" descendants of the Israelites, but Galatians is very clear who the spiritual descendants of Abraham are, and that is us.

Joe King
Sep 25th 2008, 06:20 AM
It would really speed up the rebuilding of the temple:rofl:

pinky
Sep 27th 2008, 04:31 PM
You ask any televangelist, or any dispensationalist: what is the single biggest sign of the 20th century that we are in the End Times? What is their answer?




The Khazars were descended from the Tatars and the Monguls. Typical school textbooks refer to these tribes as "barbarians", as in the barbarians who ate away at the Roman Empire and eventually caused it to crumble. In any event, they were nomadic, which is why you would have a harder time finding artifacts on the steppes surrounding the Caucasus.

The old temple evidence is largely irrelevant. The Khazars had nothing to do with the people dwelling in Jerusalem.




The alleged "God's chosen people" are CONVERTS. The Khazar Empire, as a nation, converted to Judaism 8th or 9th century AD. It is those descendants whom you see taking over Israel today. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage or espousing a religion (although I would prefer it was Christianity...), it's just that these people are not the descendants of the Israelites.

If it was truly God's will for them to return to their homeland, then their homeland is in the Caucausus mountains--unless you want to say they are "spiritual" descendants of the Israelites, but Galatians is very clear who the spiritual descendants of Abraham are, and that is us.


One could say they are 'spiritual' descendents of the pharisees, as they have adopted that religion.



It is a fact that most Jews today are Ashkenazi.


Scripture tells us ......

Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.


Recommended reading The Thirteenth Tribe, by Jewish Historian, Arthur Koestler.

Can be read online here http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Arthur.Koestler/The.13th.Tribe.htm

gringo300
Mar 5th 2010, 05:01 AM
Khazars.

According to what I've read they're Turkic.

One needs to understand the distinction between Turkish and Turkic.

Turkish is a narrower concept and Turkic is a broader concept.

Not all Turks are Turkish, but all Turks ARE Turkic.

Is Turkish was "poodle", Turkic would be "dog".

Khazars are reportedly TurkIC, but not TurkISH.