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TexasBeliever
Oct 18th 2008, 12:46 PM
What is your opinion on this-------------which denomination, if any, believes the church will be involved in the last days?
Is there such a one, or are we individuals from all denominations?
I came from a catholic background (believe it or not).
Which did you come from?
I am inquiring because I want to know where is the most likely place that I should look for likeminded believers? This weighs heavily on my mind.

Dragonfighter1
Oct 18th 2008, 01:43 PM
What is your opinion on this-------------which denomination, if any, believes the church will be involved in the last days?
Is there such a one, or are we individuals from all denominations?
I came from a catholic background (believe it or not).
Which did you come from?
I am inquiring because I want to know where is the most likely place that I should look for like minded believers? This weighs heavily on my mind.

Well you can pretty much rule out the Babtist Churches.. They are pretrib. with individuals inside that are silent dissenters for the most part.

Non-denom churches are a good bet... which means a lot of searching in your area. Maybe someone else on here can help.

Saved!
Oct 18th 2008, 01:55 PM
I am one of the silent dissenters.

I grew up Methodist. The rapture was rarely mentioned...I just assumed they were pre-tribbers.

I became Baptist....I assume they, too, are pretribbers. The rapture is rarely mentioned there either.

I have listened to some Seventh Day Adventist radio....probably where I picked up my initial curiousity about the post-trib view.

I am a little familiar with Presbyterians.

Which leaves me basically alone in my post-trib beleifs. I do not personally (aside from this board) know any other post-tribbers.

My immediate family knows my beliefs. But mostly I remain quiet and learn what I can, have anxious moments alone....in hopes of being able to help others if the need should arise in the future.

Literalist-Luke
Oct 18th 2008, 02:44 PM
Well you can pretty much rule out the Babtist Churches.. They are pretrib. with individuals inside that are silent dissenters for the most part.The preacher in the Southern Baptist church I grew up in was a publicly declared Post-Tribber.

Post-Tribbers are scattered everywhere you go. I'm not aware of any one place where we are concentrated. Yet. After the Tribulation starts, we'll be everywhere. http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/litluke/heh.gif

Dragonfighter1
Oct 18th 2008, 02:50 PM
The preacher in the Southern Baptist church I grew up in was a publicly declared Post-Tribber.

Post-Tribbers are scatters everywhere you go. I'm not aware of any one place where we are concentrated. Yet.


Yeah, but your from Texas! SO your preacher would be willing to speak up wouldnt he!:rofl:

Literalist-Luke
Oct 18th 2008, 03:13 PM
Yeah, but your from Texas! SO your preacher would be willing to speak up wouldnt he!:rofl:I grew up in the Oklahoma City area. :D

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cavscout
Oct 18th 2008, 04:38 PM
Just wondering where you get that information from Dragonfighter? I know lots of very intelligent Baptist and most of them do not believe in the pre-trib POV. In fact, most of them will tell you they don't know, and really don't think anyone does either. I am Baptist and that is where I stand on the issue as well. I don't know for sure one way or the other and though there are some that think they have it nailed down, I don't think anyone will know with 100% certainty until after it happens.

RevLogos
Oct 18th 2008, 04:53 PM
What is your opinion on this-------------which denomination, if any, believes the church will be involved in the last days?

The Ev. Lutherans do not believe in a pre-trib rapture. (At least, the WELS Synod doesn't).

Saved7
Oct 18th 2008, 05:01 PM
Post-Tribbers are scatters everywhere you go. I'm not aware of any one place where we are concentrated.

Well we seem to be pretty concentrated here.;)


Yet. After the Tribulation starts, we'll be everywhere. http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/litluke/heh.gif

Good one.:lol:

mtms540
Oct 18th 2008, 05:33 PM
...I want to know where is the most likely place that I should look for likeminded believers? This weighs heavily on my mind.

Here is the most likely place to look for likeminded believers...

Dragonfighter1
Oct 18th 2008, 05:45 PM
Just wondering where you get that information from Dragonfighter? I know lots of very intelligent Baptist and most of them do not believe in the pre-trib POV. In fact, most of them will tell you they don't know, and really don't think anyone does either. I am Baptist and that is where I stand on the issue as well. I don't know for sure one way or the other and though there are some that think they have it nailed down, I don't think anyone will know with 100% certainty until after it happens.

I went to a baptist Univ, and attend a baptist church. If you mentioned post trib at univ they burned you at the stake. Same in all the local churches I attended. Obviously there are exceptioons anmd the further north you go the more open they are to difference. But I was personally burned at the stake at Univ several times (I just got reincarnated:rofl:)

cavscout
Oct 18th 2008, 06:00 PM
Fair enough DragonFighter, but there is a word in your response that is key, A univ. and A church. I agree, a lot of Southern Baptist would lean to the pre trib side, but I assure you there are just as many out there that would lean to the post trib side if they had to make a decision one way or the other.

Thanks for the response.

third hero
Oct 18th 2008, 06:12 PM
I grew up in the Oklahoma City area. :D

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I hear that Texas team is pretty good this year...:P

And no, I am not from Texas. I am a Penn Stater myself.

Anyway, I believe that the post-tribbers are widely scattered among the pre-trib churches in this land. I was lucky to find a church in my area that deviated from the pre-trib model, even if it was just slightly. They are pre-wrath, which is what we call Mid-trib. But then again, my Pastor did say that the rapture is the signal of the end of the Great Tribulation, so that makes him a post-tribber too... And I think He is from Texas....:lol:

BTW, they are a non-denominational church. If any of you come to south-central PA area, come check out__________________________ in Carlisle. (Sorry, I am not going to provide free advertising for my Pastor's church. That would just be unfair.)

danield
Oct 18th 2008, 06:48 PM
I am a Baptist, and I am a post trib believer. I donít discuss it much at church because I think there are much more important topics to keep my mind on while worshiping. As for all you longhorns, I got two words for ya! Roll Tide!!!

ServantoftheKing
Oct 18th 2008, 06:50 PM
I am one of the silent dissenters.


Me, I'm just a dissenter. Actually, I happen to be at a Baptist church with a post-trib pastor. I did grow up in a Baptist church that was entirely pre-trib and went to a school that was as well. About a year ago I was introduced to the post-trib POV and the more I looked into it the more I saw that that was actually what the Bible taught.

ServantoftheKing

Literalist-Luke
Oct 18th 2008, 06:56 PM
If you mentioned post trib at univ they burned you at the stake. But I was personally burned at the stake at Univ several times (I just got reincarnated:rofl:)I was wondering what that smell of grilled steaks was the other night........http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/litluke/party0021-1.gif

Literalist-Luke
Oct 18th 2008, 07:00 PM
I am a Penn Stater myself.That's OK, nobody's perfect. I'll throw you some scraps from my table in heaven. :lol:
Anyway, I believe that the post-tribbers are widely scattered among the pre-trib churches in this land.That's my impression as well. :yes:

cwb
Oct 18th 2008, 07:37 PM
Sorry to all the college football fans. This is the Florida Gators year. We're due for another National Championship.




I grew up Methodist. The rapture was rarely mentioned...I just assumed they were pre-tribbers.



When I went to a Methodist church before, nobody there was pre-trib except me. (I was extremely pre-trib at the time). I'm not sure if this is true of all Methodist churches but this particular one certainly was not pre-trib.

theBelovedDisciple
Oct 18th 2008, 07:40 PM
What is your opinion on this-------------which denomination, if any, believes the church will be involved in the last days?
Is there such a one, or are we individuals from all denominations?
I came from a catholic background (believe it or not).
Which did you come from?
I am inquiring because I want to know where is the most likely place that I should look for likeminded believers? This weighs heavily on my mind.
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I guess I would first ask you 'what' you define as the 'church' of Jesus the Christ... or the 'true' body of Christ.... Personally I dont believe His Body to be divided as you see the many differernt groups with all their different theologies and doctrines.. but that's just my personal opinion.. I know there are some who have come to 'believe' that the 'church' or His Body is all the different 'denomination's' grouped together.. But I do not believe that... so answering your question is hard for me to do...

Dragonfighter1
Oct 18th 2008, 08:47 PM
I was wondering what that smell of grilled steaks was the other night........http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/litluke/party0021-1.gif


Howls of derisive:rofl: laughter!!!!

Veretax
Oct 18th 2008, 09:55 PM
The presbyrterian church (Reformed faith) I grew up in did not spend a ton of time on end times doctrine. We knew there was a second coming, but the rapture was a foreign concept. Some thought that many of the events in revelation have already Past. some thought they were future events. It wasn't really a focus of doctrine at all.

Literalist-Luke
Oct 18th 2008, 10:00 PM
I'm convinced there is a day coming when End Times and Salvation (as in how to be on the winning side) will be front page topics everywhere you go. People will be completely polarized at some point in the future.

TexasBeliever
Oct 19th 2008, 01:21 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses. It's just as I suspected. We are scattered individuals for the most part. It will take alot of investigating on my part and it dosen't sound too promising because I live in a fairly small town. (meaning limited places to look)

RevLogos
Oct 19th 2008, 04:20 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses. It's just as I suspected. We are scattered individuals for the most part. It will take alot of investigating on my part and it dosen't sound too promising because I live in a fairly small town. (meaning limited places to look)

Sounds like you are looking for a church to attend? Best thing to do is go to a few and see what you find. Meet the people, and talk to the pastor after the service. Feel for the presence of the Holy Spirit.

I went to several before I settled on a church. One had a rock band on stage and mostly sang. The preacher's sermon was all of 10 minutes and talked about Darwin - which was interesting but not from the Bible - not the Word of God.

Went to another church and it was so liturgically dogmatic - please stand up. Please sit down. Please stand up. Please sit down - that's about all I remember. Can the Holy Spirit really work in such a rigid environment?

There are many reasons I might choose one church over another, their view on the rapture may not be at the top of the list. Few churches talk much about end-times anyway. You can always come to ETC!

BTW - UT grad here - ASE - 1985.

quiet dove
Oct 19th 2008, 04:42 PM
Went to another church and it was so liturgically dogmatic - please stand up. Please sit down. Please stand up. Please sit down - that's about all I remember.

I think I went there once.:lol: I'm sorry, that made me laugh. Then they would sit and I would stand or I would sit and they would stand. I'm like, ...I'm just not getting the hang of this. And then inbetween trying to figure out just what note the lady singing behind me was trying to hit. I knew one of us was off key.

Richard H
Oct 19th 2008, 05:36 PM
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Yet. After the Tribulation starts, we'll be everywhere. http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w40/litluke/heh.gif
IMO: True.
I can almost hear some back-pedaling now on the TV.

Ethnikos
Oct 19th 2008, 06:16 PM
A lot of people got burned in the 1844 prediction of the rapture. The most general reaction was to just think the whole idea was bunk. The Seventh Day Adventists came from a few people who decided that the idea of a rapture was legitimate but could not be predicted exactly and had to come during a tribulation, not before it. So, you end up with a group who are keenly aware of a past failure and are determined to not make the same mistake.

Richard H
Oct 19th 2008, 06:29 PM
Unless pre-trib was a major teaching point, I wouldn’t let pre-trib/post-trib keep me from fellowship. (I’m 7th Trump.)

Most churches tend to avoid Revelation or play it down, so as to keep attendance up - or from a lack of understanding.

Ethnikos is right – stay away from those who claim to know the hour or the day.
Especially if it’s from a perspective of exclusivity – based on happenings in their tiny flock.

Richard

petepet
Oct 19th 2008, 06:32 PM
Come over to the UK and you will not discover all that many pre-tribs. Come to that you won't find many post-tribs either.

Having sent over to you the heresies of Darby and his ilk we forgot about it.

While there will certainly be troubles in the end days (as there have been in all days) Scripture knows nothing of a Great Tribulation at the end times.

That described in Matthew 24 began at the Roman invasion of Jerusalem in 70AD (see the parallel verses in Luke) and continued on for the Jews through the ages as described in Deuteronomy 28. There has been none like it before or since.

The great tribulation mentioned in Revelation 2 came to a church in 1st century AD. The great tribulation mentioned in Revelation 7 refers back to that in Revelation 2 (as the definite article indicates). In the end it refers to the persecution of the saints through all ages.

Thus here we do not get too involved with what happens when (although there are a minority who do). We simply await the second coming of Christ.