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LookingUp
Oct 24th 2008, 04:45 PM
I have a question for those of you who have studied this (or want to http://www.rr-bb.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)...

Can Satan fill our minds or our hearts with lies? If yes to either (or both), how does he do that?

Scripture is ALWAYS welcomed and encouraged!

Thank you for any help with this. http://www.rr-bb.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

David Taylor
Oct 24th 2008, 05:13 PM
Romans 8:31 "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. "

II Timothy 2:19 "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. "

jeffweeder
Oct 25th 2008, 12:46 AM
We are told that it is possible to be decieved, so yes he can do both.
The heart is decietful above all things .
Whenever satan says anything ,he is lying.
Because the love of the truth doesnt sink into the heart, they will believe his lies.

Peter said to Him, "Explain the parable to us."
16 Jesus said, "Are you still lacking in understanding also?
17 "Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated?
18 "But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man.
19 "For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders.
20 "These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man."


"The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.

Zack702
Oct 25th 2008, 12:55 AM
I would say that we might be tempted into lying but the actualy lie itself is a choice we make. That is something we choose to participate in. And why we need to pray for the armor of God which helps us in the battle against sin. And to pray for understanding of things so we are not tricked into lies. And we should be carefull that we do not tempt others into telling lies.

faroutinmt
Oct 25th 2008, 01:14 AM
"But Peter said, 'Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?' " Acts 5:3

A few words later, Peter asks him why he has conceived this thing in his heart.

Obviously, Peter knew that, although Ananias himself had done his part to cultivate evil desire in his own heart, Satan had some part in filling his heart with a lie as well. Interesting, indeed.

Ethnikos
Oct 25th 2008, 02:07 AM
Can Satan fill our minds or our hearts with lies? If yes to either (or both), how does he do that?
Watching TV can fill your mind with lies. If people can be deceptive enough to make you believe in something not true, I would guess Satan can use those same abilities. That's why you need to arm yourself with the truth, to combat the false influences. If you do not bother studying the truth, you could fall under the spell.

thepenitent
Oct 25th 2008, 05:14 AM
There is a reason God gives us the "whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil." (Eph 6:10)

He knows we're going to need it!

crossnote
Oct 25th 2008, 06:22 AM
I would say that satan's weapon of temptation is to draw us away from God and His Word. The more successful he is at that objective our minds which hate a vacuum (unless one is Buddhist) will be filled with lies of the world and not God's Word which is truth.

Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
(Heb 2:1)

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
(Mat 13:19)

LookingUp
Oct 27th 2008, 02:12 AM
Thank you everyone for your help! Great scripture support! Awesome!

I'd like to be more specific...

Can one biblically support that Satan can literally read our minds OR literally speak lies into our minds?

Thanks again! :)

Dani H
Oct 27th 2008, 04:48 AM
I don't think satan can read our thoughts. I see no account in Scripture that he can. I see in Scripture that he blinds the minds of unbelievers, and that he prowls around looking for people to devour, and that he accuses people before God night and day. So, the enemy can observe us and guesstimate how we're going to react to certain things and where our weaknesses lie, and tempt us accordingly. He also knows how frail our flesh is. If you're aware of the fact that the main goal of the enemy is to hinder you from growing closer to Jesus, then that's most of the battle right there. Because the more Jesus you have, the less of a chance the enemy stands to trip you up.

Also, to go with an old Chinese proverb:

You cannot prevent birds flying about your head. But you can prevent them from building nests in your hair.

The enemy can make suggestions. He can throw some thoughts our way and some feelings our way, and then see if we take the bait. It takes a few steps for a suggestion to travel from our thoughts to our hearts. It's up to us what we decide to focus on and dwell on and incorporate into our thought system, and then act upon. It's also up to us to be familiar enough with God's Word and spend enough time in God's presence, to spot the deception when it comes. If you know the voice of the Shepherd, then you will be able to tell the voice of a stranger and not follow it.

It's like the cashier being able to spot a fake bill due to having handled x amounts of real ones. If you continually feed yourself with truth, then you will spot the lies pretty much immediately.

Although, quite honestly, satan is the least of our worries. It's our flesh that is our own worst enemy. It's us who are very adept at lying to ourselves and convincing ourselves why it's okay to sin this way and that way and why we'd rather watch TV or do whatever else instead of spending time with the Lord. It's us who decide to put other things ahead of Jesus or listen to the voice of our own excuses and fears instead of the voice of the Lord. Satan is an opportunist, but if it wasn't for our flesh, he'd have no opportunity. That's why Paul went to such great length to help us understand that the only place for the flesh is the cross, and good riddance to it. :)