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TripleB
Nov 2nd 2008, 03:39 AM
I'm currently trying to decide whether to get The Message (http://www.amazon.com/Message-Bible-Comtemporary-Language-Numbered/dp/1576838463/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225596968&sr=1-2), the Aplogetics Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/Apologetics-Study-Bible-Understand-Believe/dp/158640024X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225597073&sr=1-1), or the ESV Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/The-ESV-Study-Bible/dp/1433502410/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225597111&sr=1-1).

Can anyone offer some input on any of these three Bibles?

Thank you for your input.

TripleB

BrckBrln
Nov 2nd 2008, 04:05 AM
I don't have any but I would suggest the ESV Study Bible. From what I hear it's the best Bible ever. If you don't want that then I would suggest the Apologetics Study Bible. Really anything but The Message.

danielh41
Nov 2nd 2008, 04:13 AM
My ESV Study Bible arrived yesterday via UPS, and I am very impressed with it. The color maps and useful illustrations found throughout the Bible are very impressive. There a whole lot there, from the extensive introductions at the beginning of each book to the massive notes to the supplements found at the back. And of course, I've only had it less than 36 hours, so I can't give a thorough review of it, but I'm extremely pleased. I've had an NIV Thompson Chain-Reference Bible since 1984, and my new ESV Study Bible outdoes that by a long way...

TrustGzus
Nov 2nd 2008, 05:25 AM
I own two of the three: the Apologetics Study Bible (ASB) & The Message.

Which should you buy? It depends on your needs. The ASB uses the Homan Christian Standard Bible for its base which is fine. Much more typical of a translation than The Message. It has top apologists (and many of them) that have lots of articles on very good questions. If you have a decent library of apologetic books (like I do) it's neat to have but not all that necessary. However, if you don't have much apologetics in your library, this is a great buy. If you aren't familiar with apologetics, it's a great place to get your feet wet.

Sometimes we can get so familiar with passages that we can end up missing some of the impact and what the author was really trying to get across. The Message is great if you want to read a different version in the coming new year to jar you out of that kind of complacent "I'm familiar with this already" kind of position. As I posted in your thread about The Message (http://bibleforums.org/showpost.php?p=1849654&postcount=2), it's not the Bible you stick with and do your studies in. However, it has its place. People who are down on The Message in my opinion miss the point of The Message. It's not trying to be the new KJV or even NIV. People criticize it as if it's in the market to do that and become the next #1 study Bible. If it ever did become that, then it would have done what Eugene Peterson never wanted for it.

TripleB
Nov 2nd 2008, 12:05 PM
My ESV Study Bible arrived yesterday via UPS, and I am very impressed with it. The color maps and useful illustrations found throughout the Bible are very impressive. There a whole lot there, from the extensive introductions at the beginning of each book to the massive notes to the supplements found at the back.

As far as ease of reading, how does the ESV compare to others such as the NLT, NIV, CSB, NAS, etc?

Thanks for everyone's insight!!!

TripleB

tt1106
Nov 2nd 2008, 02:00 PM
I can recommend the ASB. The articles are well done and the snippets called "Twisted Scripture" are very informative.
I do not have the ESV or the message, but I've heard good things about the ESV. I find the Message a little loose for my liking.

thepenitent
Nov 2nd 2008, 05:18 PM
I own all three and the ESV Study Bible is the best, an awesome resource. This is not to put down the ASB, as it does an excellent job in apologetics as well as traditional study notes. It also has some excellent charts and maps in the back. The "Message" is more of a commentary than a Bible. I'm not saying it's a bad commentary but I recommend using it as a supplement to a real Bible rather than one's primary source of scripture.

faithnjc
Nov 2nd 2008, 05:54 PM
Since I am really into apologetics, I would want the ASB.

doppelganger
Nov 2nd 2008, 07:12 PM
ESV Study Bible

TripleB
Nov 2nd 2008, 08:10 PM
Thanks for all your help with this decision.

I went today and spent about an hour looking at all the various Bibles and it came down to either the ASB or the ESVSB.

I found a copy of The Message on a bookshelf in my computer room. When my father passed away I inherited about 20 (or more) different Bibles. The copy of the Message he had doesn't have verse numbers but until I decide I need those I'll probably refrain from purchasing the Message...unless they have another 50% off sale ;)

The ESV is an awesome resource with a lot of amazing features but I decided to go with the Apologetics Study Bible (http://www.allbibles.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=1586400258&Bc=&BrandName=&eq=&Tp=) for $30.

The main reason I chose the ASB is for ease of read. I'm not a die-hard reader (started in 6th grade...don't ask) so ease of understanding the material is my number one concern.

Unfortunately I probably won't get to read it until Christmas day...my wife things that it would be something she would like to give me for Christmas :rolleyes:

But again, I appreciate all your help and advice!!!

TripleB

danielh41
Nov 2nd 2008, 10:27 PM
As far as ease of reading, how does the ESV compare to others such as the NLT, NIV, CSB, NAS, etc?

Thanks for everyone's insight!!!

TripleB

It's probably a little less easy than the NLT or NIV since the ESV has tried to stick closer to a "word for word" translation as opposed to a "thought-for-thought" approach. But I think it's a very well done translation. Our church uses the NIV for public readings, and I have been following along with my ESV, noting the differences. The ESV is usually more direct and less ambiguous. But the ESV also uses more compound and/or complex sentences to get its points across than does the NIV. I prefer the ESV just because it does seem clearer to me.

I don't own a CSB or an NASB, so I can't really compare it to those translations.

danielh41
Nov 2nd 2008, 10:30 PM
Thanks for all your help with this decision.

I went today and spent about an hour looking at all the various Bibles and it came down to either the ASB or the ESVSB.

I found a copy of The Message on a bookshelf in my computer room. When my father passed away I inherited about 20 (or more) different Bibles. The copy of the Message he had doesn't have verse numbers but until I decide I need those I'll probably refrain from purchasing the Message...unless they have another 50% off sale ;)

The ESV is an awesome resource with a lot of amazing features but I decided to go with the Apologetics Study Bible (http://www.allbibles.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=1586400258&Bc=&BrandName=&eq=&Tp=) for $30.

The main reason I chose the ASB is for ease of read. I'm not a die-hard reader (started in 6th grade...don't ask) so ease of understanding the material is my number one concern.

Unfortunately I probably won't get to read it until Christmas day...my wife things that it would be something she would like to give me for Christmas :rolleyes:

But again, I appreciate all your help and advice!!!

TripleB

I do have to say that the more I get into the ESV Study Bible, the more I love it. It's a Bible and a Bible encyclopedia all in one.

Rosalyn
Jan 12th 2011, 11:05 PM
I have a Message Bible. Its a good Bible if you want to get the overall feel of a passage, but since its more of a thought for thought than other translations its a good idea to have a tried Bible with you (KJV, NKJV,NRSV, etc..)

crawfish
Jan 13th 2011, 04:04 AM
You could also consider the Archaeology Study Bible. It has a wealth of background info on cultures and history that I've found invaluable.

Butch5
Jan 16th 2011, 01:57 PM
I'm currently trying to decide whether to get The Message (http://www.amazon.com/Message-Bible-Comtemporary-Language-Numbered/dp/1576838463/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225596968&sr=1-2), the Aplogetics Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/Apologetics-Study-Bible-Understand-Believe/dp/158640024X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225597073&sr=1-1), or the ESV Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/The-ESV-Study-Bible/dp/1433502410/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225597111&sr=1-1).

Can anyone offer some input on any of these three Bibles?


Thank you for your input.

TripleB

Don't get the message if you want to study the Bible. The message is a paraphrase not a translation. With the message you get what someone else thinks the Bible means.

NoChurchHome
Feb 21st 2011, 04:21 AM
I saw an ESV study bible. Maybe it was a large print version, I don't know. But, man was it ever big!

the rookie
Feb 21st 2011, 04:24 AM
I have the ESV Study Bible and it is the best thing since sliced bread. For real - it's a little seminary crammed into my Bible. Love it, love the footnotes (mostly, which is rare for me), love the articles, love the Reformed guys (and I'm not reformed). Full of great, great stuff. Can't recommend highly enough - one of the best investments ever.

PilgrimPastor
Feb 22nd 2011, 03:22 AM
I'm currently trying to decide whether to get The Message (http://www.amazon.com/Message-Bible-Comtemporary-Language-Numbered/dp/1576838463/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225596968&sr=1-2), the Aplogetics Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/Apologetics-Study-Bible-Understand-Believe/dp/158640024X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225597073&sr=1-1), or the ESV Study Bible (http://www.amazon.com/The-ESV-Study-Bible/dp/1433502410/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225597111&sr=1-1).

Can anyone offer some input on any of these three Bibles?

Thank you for your input.

TripleB

I have all three. If you can only get one, get the ESV Study Bible. I recommend it to everyone. Best study notes for general study, hands down.

Kyle
Feb 22nd 2011, 04:12 AM
I sell bibles everyday, but this does not make me an expert, and as I have found, every bible version has readers that claim their version is the only version that is the
"best " version. To put this in perspective, my favorite bible is the KJV. Next would be the NASB, for it might be the most accurate word for word translation. I also
have an NLT among others.

This being said, I had a young atheist woman who read the Message. As she finished it she gave her life to Christ. Then she gave it to her atheist friend who read it,
and now they are both Christians. The ESV is a very good translation, but to me it is just another translation. All in all, the Bible is a gift of God, and I have yet to find
contradictions in most versions. I trust in Him, and he trusts in me. Let me stress, this is my opinion, and as Jesus Christ said in John 17:17, Thy word is Truth, and I believe
Him. God bless. <><