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InSchoolStudy
Nov 6th 2008, 05:27 AM
Im not sure if it says anything directly but if it doesnt, im sure theres some hidden view of why its a sin or something.

Ive always wondered, because people say Heck but only because they cant say Hell, so they mean the same thing.

Also if they werent bad no one would use them

Athanasius
Nov 6th 2008, 05:37 AM
So I was just wondering I read some were the other day when I was on bible.com for some bible at school because I dont bring my bible.... teachers would probably take it... and this subject came acrossed. Some people said obviously Porn is wrong, but then some people said if your not looking at anything bad....

somewhat awkward subject

1. Porn is sin, no matter what the content is.
2. Masturbation is a sin.

I'll let someone else quote scripture since I'm engaged in a heated chess game :P

InSchoolStudy
Nov 6th 2008, 05:41 AM
Chess? i also found another use for this thread considering search solved my last question o.o

Edit: you always have some really good answers to my threads... your like... really good with this :D and helpfull.


I always think I see the N word when I see your name though haha

Athanasius
Nov 6th 2008, 05:57 AM
Chess? i also found another use for this thread considering search solved my last question o.o

Edit: you always have some really good answers to my threads... your like... really good with this :D and helpfull.


I always think I see the N word when I see your name though haha

Yeah I'm a nerd I play chess :P Well, right now it's me and my girlfriend playing. I'm an ocean away from her and it's nice every now and again.

I wouldn't say I'm "really good" with answers. I mostly just ramble, stuff comes out and people say more ;) My name is a race in the computer game StarCraft.

InSchoolStudy
Nov 6th 2008, 06:05 AM
Lol Im a halo addict, no joke :(

at least i make money playing it... XD

Athanasius
Nov 6th 2008, 06:10 AM
Lol Im a halo addict, no joke :(

at least i make money playing it... XD

You play MLG or just local tournaments? Back when I was active (at least, when I played games) I was quite involved in WCG and specialized StarCraft tournaments - I was a professional gamer for quite a while.

InSchoolStudy
Nov 6th 2008, 06:12 AM
Im in the MLG semi-pro circuit, I also do Brawl for gamebattles = 7500$ tourney online till december.


im thinking about gettin GoW2 or CoD5 this next week

Athanasius
Nov 6th 2008, 06:15 AM
Im in the MLG semi-pro circuit, I also do Brawl for gamebattles = 7500$ tourney online till december.

im thinking about gettin GoW2 or CoD5 this next week

Ah nice... I haven't gamed seriously in quite a while, life took over.

InSchoolStudy
Nov 6th 2008, 06:17 AM
i wish i could say the same..... when i stop games its like.... 90% of my time is sitting on the couch doing nothing

Kudo Shinichi
Nov 6th 2008, 01:21 PM
Do you mean
Deuteronomy 5:11
11 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Some of my friends last time in High School says Oh my ***. That is really cursing.

GitRDunn
Nov 6th 2008, 10:34 PM
Im not sure if it says anything directly but if it doesnt, im sure theres some hidden view of why its a sin or something.

Ive always wondered, because people say Heck but only because they cant say Hell, so they mean the same thing.

Also if they werent bad no one would use them
I don't know if there are any actual verses about cursing in the manner we think of it. I wonder if this isn't more just a connotation that people have given to the word because things have come and gone as "curse" in the many centuries since Jesus was on Earth. Just because the Bible doesn't say they are curse words still doesn't necessarily mean that they should be used because their connotation is bad, but that doesn't mean that they curse words.


Do you mean
Deuteronomy 5:11
11 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Some of my friends last time in High School says Oh my ***. That is really cursing.
I agree that this is the one "true" way to curse.

Revinius
Nov 7th 2008, 03:09 AM
There are heaps of verses on the way we use our tongues. For example:

James 3:3-12

When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

scourge39
Nov 7th 2008, 04:00 AM
The passages that address the topic more directly are:

29Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you. (Ephesians 4:29-32, NIV)

3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7Therefore do not be partners with them. (Ephesians 5:3-7, NIV)

InSchoolStudy
Nov 7th 2008, 06:24 AM
thanks guys.

!!

InSchoolStudy
Nov 9th 2008, 06:03 AM
a friend of mine pointed out:


Yes. Using God's name in vain is always, completely wrong.

To try and make absolute, hard and fast rules about any other piece of language is pointless and legalistic.

And to take it one step further, if you acknowledge that the s-word means the same thing as alternatives and isn't inherently unwholesome, why is the f-word inherently unwholesome? Can't it also be used in different ways? Aren't people who say "freakin" or "flippin" or "screw you" really just substituting those words for the f-word and using them in the exact same way with the exact same intent? How does one particular word become definitively unwholesome no matter what?

I've said this before, but I'll repeat it cause I think it's an important point: society determines what words are considered "cuss" words. Words like the f-word and the s-word are only considered coarse and "profane" because society views them as such. However, much of the same population that labels the f-word profane and offensive has no problem taking the Lord's name in vain. People who apologize when they let an s-word slip (a subjective cultural taboo) have no problem uttering the one thing that the Bible specifically deems profane. It seems clear that those who decide on "cuss" words define profanity much differently than the Bible does. Just something to think about.

in fact I dont know why my parents even consider this bad, they let me say crap and screw and stuff of that sort. This is starting to seem very legalistic while using God's name in vein is still an absolutely terrible thing to do.

Revinius
Nov 13th 2008, 01:58 AM
'crap' and 'screw' arent really offensive in Australia. Depends on cultural context. Referring to someone as a 'dog' in some countries (even in JC's time) is prolly one of the worst insults ever.