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copper25
Nov 21st 2008, 08:30 PM
Number 15:29) But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, weather he be born in the land, or a stranger , the same reproaceth the Lord; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people

Does presumptuous mean it can be controlled, but is chosen not to? When presumptuous sin is committed, rebellion is chosen. “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation”, but by no means submit to it. This world is full of temptation and holds the snares of sin. What good or value can a person develop while they are willfully serving sin. As it is written “Being made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness”. Being free from sin means that we should not submit to it. What are we saying when we chose to sin? What form of righteousness is in that? None! In today’s world people are kidding themselves, preferring to live in patronization, rather then the truth of God. How can a child of God be a purposeful transgressor of the Law, because the law is for and designed for those people who are in the current action of transgression, willful, meaning that when you transgress or commit an offense of the law of God on purpose, you have willingly chosen to be under the law and not under grace. For how can one under grace be sinning against God, knowing that it is against the same law that grace keeps the person from violating? Wake up my people, “He that commith sin is of the devil”, while we may not be perfect, the truth is that that is no excuse for us to live our lives purposely sinning.

God has standards for us to live in and we need to abide in them. “his commandments are not grievous” meaning that it should come not as an unnatural lifestyle to live without presumptuous sin. Though we may slip at times, sin should not by any means be first nature to us, but rather the way of the Spirit. “the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh“ , so by leaning to God we can “walk in the Spirit” and not abide in the ways of the flesh which are corruption and sinfulness. Avoiding sin is not something that should be taken lightly, and many have erred into thinking so. As long as I have faith and believe in God, everything is going to be ok. Wrong! Why, because faith causes action. To love God with all your heart means to flee from the things causing offense, sin, and transgression. It is a truth many in today’s society have shut their ears to, but it’s the truth. God is righteous, and by no means would he want us to live in the sin that the Lord our savior died for. “he was wounded for our transgressions” and was made sin for us, not so we can live furthermore in sin, but to be set free from and escape from it, henceforth not being servants of sin, but servants of righteousness. We can not serve both righteousness and sin because when you serve one, you are set free from the other.


My people, we have been called to holiness, to walk and to live in the ways of holiness, but not to live in the sin that Christ sacrificed his life for. Freeing us was the purpose, not to be stuck dead in the same bondage of sin that we were dead in before repentance. We need to break away from the ways of the old corruption and reach for new holiness. Pray, read, study the word of God because it is written for our health and for our sake. When we sin, we only are sinning to our own hurt, rebelling like Israel in the desert, rebelling like Aaron, when he allowed the golden calf to be made for the children of Israel at the bottom of Mount Sieni, rebellion like Cane when he killed Able. God only wants what is good for us, but we must seek obedience to God and the ways of righteousness because there is no compromise, nor in between if we want to live a live pleasing to God. One life, that is all we have to get it right, to live right by God. And how fast can that life pass us by. 2 Peter 2:21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness , than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.))

Back2Front
Nov 21st 2008, 09:54 PM
Presumption, like with all sins, is very clever.

So I'm going to try and give you where I am at with it.

All that I have highlighted in red in your post I feel tempted with presumption through its wording.


Number 15:29) But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, weather he be born in the land, or a stranger , the same reproaceth the Lord; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people

Does presumptuous mean it can be controlled, but is chosen not to? When presumptuous sin is committed, rebellion is chosen. “Blessed is the man that endureth temptation”, but by no means submit to it. This world is full of temptation and holds the snares of sin. What good or value can a person develop while they are willfully serving sin. As it is written “Being made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness”. Being free from sin means that we should not submit to it. What are we saying when we chose to sin? What form of righteousness is in that? None! In today’s world people are kidding themselves, preferring to live in patronization, rather then the truth of God. How can a child of God be a purposeful transgressor of the Law, because the law is for and designed for those people who are in the current action of transgression, willful, meaning that when you transgress or commit an offense of the law of God on purpose, you have willingly chosen to be under the law and not under grace. For how can one under grace be sinning against God, knowing that it is against the same law that grace keeps the person from violating? Wake up my people, “He that commith sin is of the devil”, while we may not be perfect, the truth is that that is no excuse for us to live our lives purposely sinning.

God has standards for us to live in and we need to abide in them. “his commandments are not grievous” meaning that it should come not as an unnatural lifestyle to live without presumptuous sin. Though we may slip at times, sin should not by any means be first nature to us, but rather the way of the Spirit. “the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh“ , so by leaning to God we can “walk in the Spirit” and not abide in the ways of the flesh which are corruption and sinfulness. Avoiding sin is not something that should be taken lightly, and many have erred into thinking so. As long as I have faith and believe in God, everything is going to be ok. Wrong! Why, because faith causes action. To love God with all your heart means to flee from the things causing offense, sin, and transgression. It is a truth many in today’s society have shut their ears to, but it’s the truth. God is righteous, and by no means would he want us to live in the sin that the Lord our savior died for. “he was wounded for our transgressions” and was made sin for us, not so we can live furthermore in sin, but to be set free from and escape from it, henceforth not being servants of sin, but servants of righteousness. We can not serve both righteousness and sin because when you serve one, you are set free from the other.


My people, we have been called to holiness, to walk and to live in the ways of holiness, but not to live in the sin that Christ sacrificed his life for. Freeing us was the purpose, not to be stuck dead in the same bondage of sin that we were dead in before repentance. We need to break away from the ways of the old corruption and reach for new holiness. Pray, read, study the word of God because it is written for our health and for our sake. When we sin, we only are sinning to our own hurt, rebelling like Israel in the desert, rebelling like Aaron, when he allowed the golden calf to be made for the children of Israel at the bottom of Mount Sieni, rebellion like Cane when he killed Able. God only wants what is good for us, but we must seek obedience to God and the ways of righteousness because there is no compromise, nor in between if we want to live a live pleasing to God. One life, that is all we have to get it right, to live right by God. And how fast can that life pass us by. 2 Peter 2:21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness , than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.))