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Tuto
Jan 8th 2009, 08:51 PM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?

jesuslover1968
Jan 8th 2009, 08:56 PM
In general, I believe if they are on tv, then they are not of God. That doesn't mean that one may not come along who IS actually of God, just in general...
I feel that the televangelists are there to further their riches and their social standings in the world. They are also there to poison the world's opinion about the one true God. If I had only ever heard what a tv preacher has to say, I would never have heard the real, whole, awesome truth of the Gospel. ( This is my opinion and is not said to be attacked by every person on this board who doesn't feel the same way...:))

tango
Jan 8th 2009, 09:03 PM
I'm not going to comment on those specific individuals, simply because I don't know enough about them to say anything meaningful at all.

I can comment on a few times I've seen TV evangelism shows that frequently seem to show someone wearing a very expensive suit, standing in front of a stack of flowers that must cost several thousand dollars, saying how critical it is that the viewer sends money RIGHT NOW to support this mission.

If somebody asks me for prayers I will gladly pray with them or for them. If I'm going to support someone financially it would be because I could see a need, not because they approached me. TV shows using very expensive props to ask me for money aren't going anywhere in my book.

Which country are you in, Tuto?

Tuto
Jan 8th 2009, 09:10 PM
I live in Finland

Gulah Papyrus
Jan 8th 2009, 09:21 PM
It's just like anything else, discernment rules the day. Some are good, some are not good. You can usually tell if it's simply a tv camera filming a service that would be being given whether the cameras were there or not, or if it's a 'made for tv production'. The former seems to indicate more authenticity...the latter, probably not so much.

Just my :2cents:

Bethany67
Jan 8th 2009, 09:22 PM
Mostly they're dreadful and they preach a warped 'prosperity gospel' ie. send us money and God will bless you. God TV is notorious for this. I wouldn't watch it now; they used to show John Bevere who was actually okay, but I don't think they have him on there any more.

karenoka27
Jan 8th 2009, 09:38 PM
I don't care for Benny Hinn or Joyce Meyers. I do think Joyce is a great motivational speaker,but I disagree with some of her doctrines.

My salvation came through a man named Ben Kinchlow. He was the co-host of the 700 club. Again, I disagree with some of the beliefs of this show as well,but God saw fit to see me saved through this man.

I am not judging those mentioned, that is God's responsibility and right.


I did think of this verse no matter who these tv evangelist:

Philippians 1:15-18-"It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice."

Libre
Jan 8th 2009, 10:20 PM
It's been said the TV ruined many a preacher. It may be true. No doubt compromises are made to stay on the air.

Personally I don't care for many of them. I do believe Hinn is a true man of God. I've heard him preach. Joyce Meyers just grates my nerves. My favorite TV preacher is Jack Hayford. I also like Miles Munroe. And here and there I hear one I like.

TV is not a church and only a supplement. There is no true fellowship without a gathering of like minded believers. IMO.

tango
Jan 9th 2009, 11:46 AM
Mod hat on
Just a quick reminder everybody, please make sure your replies address the original poster and their questions.

I've just deleted a few posts that turned into a discussion and lost the focus on the original questions. If people want to discuss things other than in the context of answering Tuto's questions, please start a thread elsewhere on the board.

Dani H
Jan 10th 2009, 01:12 AM
I think television ministers have their place. There are many with a powerful message and testimony that really don't get tripped up by the commercialism of it all but wish to simply share the Gospel and testimony of Jesus with a larger audience because they have a heart for those who need God, and want to help in some way. But I think that sometimes it can be challenging as we wade through the vast array of things that are being offered, and I also think that many times the simplicity of a walk with Jesus gets lost in the polishedness of it all. There is a danger of allowing a ministry to sink down to the level of entertainment. God isn't here to entertain us, and we're not here to entertain one another, but to fellowship and teach and help and guide and support one another. Any minister should be approachable because we are all equal before the Lord, and sometimes TV has a way of elevating people on a pedestal which is far removed from how God wants us to fellowship with one another, on an equal level where everyone has something to contribute when we come together. Nobody is a celebrity in the Kingdom. :)

I used to watch Christian TV a lot as a new believer and it did really help me with my walk with the Lord, even though I didn't always agree with what people had to say. There were many times where I could sense His presence while watching certain broadcasts and that was always wonderful. But just like with going to church or listen to any preacher or teacher, we ultimately all have the responsibility to search out Scripture and seek God for ourselves instead of just taking a person's word for it, whether they be on television or not.

If you find a broadcast sermon helpful and if it ministers to you, then that's great. If not, then there is a reason for that, and it's time to shut off the tube and study on your own or perhaps with a small Bible study group or find some way of fellowship, which TV or anything else should never replace anyway. We all need that personal touch and fellowship, and television cannot replace that, although it can be a blessing. Media can certainly be a powerful tool God uses. I've read many books that have helped me immensely with my walk with the Lord, for example. TV is just another media, as is the Internet, as is anything else God uses to teach and guide us. But nothing can replace our direct fellowship with Him or our own study of Scripture and direct contact with other believers, unless perhaps you're homebound or cannot find anyone else in your area to connect with for some reason. :)

Athanasius
Jan 10th 2009, 01:43 AM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?

I won't comment on the people, but in regards to their teaching... Not a big fan. On another note, and I apologize, I'm at work and can't access a Finnish keyboard... Mita kuuluu?

markedward
Jan 10th 2009, 02:12 AM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?I believe most televangelists preach what people just want to hear, not what is actually truthful.

militarywife
Jan 10th 2009, 03:13 AM
I don't care for Benny Hinn or Joyce Meyers. I do think Joyce is a great motivational speaker,but I disagree with some of her doctrines.

My salvation came through a man named Ben Kinchlow. He was the co-host of the 700 club. Again, I disagree with some of the beliefs of this show as well,but God saw fit to see me saved through this man.

I am not judging those mentioned, that is God's responsibility and right.


I did think of this verse no matter who these tv evangelist:

Philippians 1:15-18-"It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice."

I have to agree here. I believe Gods word does not turn back void. The motives are Gods to deal with. Discernment is a wonderful gift also.

JesusMySavior
Jan 10th 2009, 03:48 AM
It ultimately comes down to discernment. Without the Holy Spirit a person cannot discern what is truth and what isn't.

That being said, some televangelists are well-balanced and teach the Word. I personally have found Joyce Meyer's teachings to be some of the most practical, scripture-sound teaching I have heard. She teaches the Word and gives you practical advice on how to live it out in your life.


On the flipside however, there are some televangelists that do not teach sound doctrine and tickle the ears of the hearers, and they also preach off-color views on what scripture is to mean. There are some teachers that I will listen to some of what they have to say but I have to keep my ears perked so false teaching doesn't fall on lazy ears and take root later on.


I would say to the OP, if you are seeking Christ, read your Bible and, (IMO) I would encourage you to tune into some sound teaching like Joyce Meyer or Charles Stanley (if he's available in your area). Ask God to lead you in the right direction even if you are just questioning at this point.

God bless! :)

thepenitent
Jan 10th 2009, 06:37 AM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?

There are some Godly televangelists but they are few and far between. I awlays liked the late Dr. James Kennedy. Charles Stanley is often good also.

awestruckchild
Jan 10th 2009, 10:19 AM
I have only found one tv show on the "church" channels that I really even get anything out of. I thave taped segments of pretty much every one and eventually, each of them said something that shocked me so bad, I just quit taping their show.

There was one guy I watched for longer and thought he could be trusted and finally one day he said something like....now I'm all for the Sovreignity of God.......as long as you use the definition given in the dictionary.....then he went on to say all the things God couldn't do! Bothers me that all of the televangelists I taped and watched have a very different conception of God than me because it seems like they try to get people to believe He is a very strong and very good....being, instead of the only holy, the only sovereign, the only omnipotent,the only unchangable...

Anyway, I have learned a lot from Perry Stone. I feel safe watching him because the Spirit moves in me a lot when I watch him. He delves into ancient Jewish customs, which explains things I never would have known or understood. Greek and Hebrew word definitions he gives help me too.

One day he explained how in the vs. in...Isaiah? that says He was pierced, bruised, striped, and showed the crackers(called matza, I think), how it has darker raised areas that cooked more that look like bruises, holes (pierced) and stripes because the piercings are in lines!

And the other day, he taught some really amazing things about manna.
And one day recently he taught how the first reference to a Trinity is in the first vss. of Genesis, which I never noticed - In the beginning God (the Father).....and His Spirit(Holy Spirit) was moving over the waters........and He said, Let there be light(the Son)

Until then, I had thought the first reference to a Trinity was in like...Gen1:26?

ServantofTruth
Jan 10th 2009, 12:22 PM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?

Like my friend Tango, I can't comment on individuals because I don't know enough about them.

TV is just another way of getting the same gospel message across. When I do flick through these channels, I have listened to the bible being read - never bad!, and some very good bible talks and discussions.

But some channels/ programs, do seem to spent a lot of time asking for money. Surely if a ministry is good, a small reminder occassionally would be enough?

An individual needs a physical local church, within the bigger body of believers, to grow/ mature in. A pastor and church authority to guide them and protect them.

TV God channels, like web sites, become a problem for the individual when they are a 'substitute' church. The only people who could use these mediums in this way are the disabled or house bound or those living an impossible distance to get to a physical church. Which is very few people indeed.

This group of people should recieve home/ hospital visits which all churches do and many hospitals have their own ministers.

I guess I'm saying these TV ministries shouldn't be so big, because 99% of people should have a physical church. However I recognise they provide a valueable service to a small few and perhaps by saterlite to some countries, where the Word of God and churches are restricted. SofTy.

shepherdsword
Jan 10th 2009, 01:52 PM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?

I don't care too much for them.(with a few exceptions)

Drums4Him
Jan 12th 2009, 02:36 PM
Not too long ago a new channel called the God TV started in my country. I have watched it a few times and occasionally they prodcast a show by some American tele evangelist like Benny Hinn or Joyce Myers etc. I was just wondering what people here thought about Tele Evangelist in general?

Are they really bearing fruit for the Lord? Some are and some aren't, and the believer needs to sort that out. I used to listen to Joel Osteen when I first became a believer but I don't anymore. The one I like the best who so far has not let me down is Dr. Stanley of In Touch ministries. His sermons seem to hit the spot and he is always backing them up with scripture.