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nzyr
Jul 21st 2009, 10:51 AM
What kind of governments is this scripture talking about? Governments in the church? Outside the church? Or could it be both?

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

-1 Corinthians 12:28

-SEEKING-
Jul 21st 2009, 12:59 PM
Here is another translation. Maybe it will make more sense. ESV. (Not that there's anything wrong with the translation you posted.)

"28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues."

From ESV Study Bible

"1 Cor. 12:28 On apostles, see notes on Matt. 10:2; Rom. 1:1. prophets. See note on 1 Cor. 12:10. First . . . second . . . third . . . then seems to be a ranking of importance or benefit to the church, with apostles being primary and then prophecy and teaching also contributing greatly to building others up. Teachers, helping, and administrating do not appear in the list in vv. 810, and helping and administrating do not show up in the rhetorical questions in vv. 2930, indicating that the different lists are representative rather than exhaustive."

I hope this helps.

RogerW
Jul 21st 2009, 01:52 PM
What kind of governments is this scripture talking about? Governments in the church? Outside the church? Or could it be both?

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

-1 Corinthians 12:28

Greetings nzyr,

It seems the context shows Paul is speaking of government in the church. Some folks don't like the ideal that Christ has established an hierarchy, or directorship in His church. Instead of submitting to biblical headship some 'feel' compelled to establish a church where members of the congregation at large rule the church through popular vote. In this way of doing church all manner of unbiblical things (from liturgy, to music, even doctrine) has been compromised, because the world is in membership in the church.

In those churches that have remained faithful to biblical government through eldership, there has been less compromise. But sadly even churches governed according to biblical leadership also become compromised when unqualified men have been appointed to the position of government. This is why it is so important not only to set up the government in the church as the Bible describes, but also to make sure the men appointed to govern the Lord's church are biblically qualified.

Many Blessings,
RW

RabbiKnife
Jul 21st 2009, 02:10 PM
The greek is the word for the guy that steers the boat.