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Redeemed by Grace
Aug 24th 2010, 12:53 PM
Jesus gave the disciples a pattern in approaching God in prayer, for we read within Matthew 6 what we call today the Lord’s prayer.

Matthew 6:5-13
5 "When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.
6 "But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
7 "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.
8 "So do not be like them; for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.



9 "Pray, then, in this way:
'Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10 'Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.
11 'Give us this day our daily bread.
12 'And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 'And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.'

For this thread, we see Jesus telling His disciples to ask God for forgiveness of debts or sins, right after asking God for food for the day, so the question is this: How often do you ask God to forgive you of your sins?

-SEEKING-
Aug 24th 2010, 01:09 PM
Although I whole heartedly believe that His Grace was sufficient to cover all my sins, I do ask daily. I also can't ignore the fact that if I do mess up, I should confess it to Him, although He knows it, I'm acknowledging my failure before Him and acknowledging my dependance on Him.

Vhayes
Aug 24th 2010, 01:13 PM
How often do I confess? Whenever the Holy Spirit prompts me, taps me on the shoulder to let me know what I just did or said was wrong. That can be many times a day on some days.

Slug1
Aug 24th 2010, 01:21 PM
I selected daily and also the selection of "at the moment I become aware of my sin". The Holy Spirit has convicted me of sin I have done after my acceptance of Christ and have sinned since then but in my immaturity in Christ and as my balance of a relationship with God, through Jesus was more in the world... some of this past sin has come up in prayer with God as I was praying in the Spirit and I acknowldged this sin as it was placed before me, confessed it and asked God for forgivness.

Redeemed by Grace
Aug 24th 2010, 02:08 PM
I've recently been told that if I sin it it because I'm not trying hard enough not to sin or that I use the Bible out of context as an excuse for sinning, so I'm not sure how to answer since I am a carnal Christian.

Not sure I follow :huh:

Redeemed by Grace
Aug 24th 2010, 02:35 PM
Just repeating what I've been told when I say "I sin willfully and repeatedly." Since I don't blame "ignorance" or others for my sin, this is what I have been told.

Oh...

You've been told that, but not what you are saying?

notuptome
Aug 24th 2010, 02:43 PM
How often do I confess? Whenever the Holy Spirit prompts me, taps me on the shoulder to let me know what I just did or said was wrong. That can be many times a day on some days.
Thanks be to God for His Spirt that convicts us when we sin. I would hate to not have the witness of His Spirit with my spirit that I am His. What clearer evidence could we seek than His Spirit prompting us that we have sinned against His great love?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Sirus
Aug 24th 2010, 02:49 PM
How often do I confess? Whenever the Holy Spirit prompts me, taps me on the shoulder to let me know what I just did or said was wrong. That can be many times a day on some days.No, "How often do you ask God to forgive you" is the question. That's different than confess.

RabbiKnife
Aug 24th 2010, 02:50 PM
I'm not sure I'm tracing how confession is any different from asking God to forgive...

Slug1
Aug 24th 2010, 02:59 PM
No, "How often do you ask God to forgive you" is the question. That's different than confess.Confession is the acknowledgement of sin! So how can a person NOT seek forgiveness without first confessing the sin... before even asking for God's forgivness? Confession is a fruit of conviction by the Holy Spirit and the bounty is healing and forgivness.

John146
Aug 24th 2010, 03:06 PM
Jesus gave the disciples a pattern in approaching God in prayer, for we read within Matthew 6 what we call today the Lord’s prayer.

Matthew 6:5-13
5 "When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.
6 "But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
7 "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.
8 "So do not be like them; for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.


9 "Pray, then, in this way:
'Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
10 'Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.
11 'Give us this day our daily bread.
12 'And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 'And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.'For this thread, we see Jesus telling His disciples to ask God for forgiveness of debts or sins, right after asking God for food for the day, so the question is this: How often do you ask God to forgive you of your sins?I think the idea was to pray for those things daily ("give us this day our daily bread") so I pray for forgiveness daily with the understanding that I have to forgive others in order to be forgiven (Matt 6:14-15).

notuptome
Aug 24th 2010, 03:17 PM
I'll take two if you'll take a check post-dated to May 12, 2011...

:)
In God we trust all others pay cash...well at least we say we trust in God....with the way we act sometimes I could begin to doubt.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Vhayes
Aug 24th 2010, 03:32 PM
Forgiveness was "granted" at the cross. When I confess my sin(s) I am agreeing with God that I did something/thought something that was displeasing to Him and appropriating that forgiveness so that I might be in a steady and strong relationship again.

Does that semantically please?
V

Sirus
Aug 24th 2010, 09:18 PM
I'm not sure I'm tracing how confession is any different from asking God to forgive...Then it looks like you need to do a word study.

Sirus
Aug 24th 2010, 09:29 PM
Confession is the acknowledgement of sin!ok


So how can a person NOT seek forgiveness without first confessing the sin... before even asking for God's forgivness?I confess when I sin, not seeking forgiveness that has already been given. As a believer I'm not told to ask for forgiveness anywhere in scripture unless I'm at or near apostasy.


Confession is a fruit of conviction by the Holy Spiritok


and the bounty is healing and forgivness.I already have healing -Mat 13:15, 1Pe 2:24 and "no more conscience of sins" -Heb 10:2

Sirus
Aug 24th 2010, 09:34 PM
Forgiveness was "granted" at the cross. When I confess my sin(s) I am agreeing with God that I did something/thought something that was displeasing to Him and appropriating that forgiveness so that I might be in a steady and strong relationship again.

Does that semantically please?
VI doubt it, but lets see.
What do you mean by confess? I mean, do you have to speak with your mouth in a religious act/moment of prayer or something?
If so, if you do not, are you still already forgiven because you agreed you sinned when you actually committed the sin?
If so, why would your relationship be effected?