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Ta-An
Mar 12th 2011, 05:23 PM
Vandag is die eerste keer dat ek die term hoor :o

Ek weet somminge gedeeltes van Islam se Heilige Skrifte met die van ons OT ooreenstem... is dit waar die voorspelling van hulle messias ook voorstspruit?

Dus sien hulle Mohammed nie as hulle messias nie :hmm: maar dat hy nog moet kom ?? :hmm:

CFJ
Mar 12th 2011, 05:45 PM
Ek het maar nog net vlugtig daaroor gelees en weet eintlik bitter min van hierdie onderwerp Ta-An, maar dis mos hoekom ons hier is, om meer uit te vind... :)

Die Filadelfieer
Mar 12th 2011, 05:52 PM
Soos ek verstaan wag hulle vir die laaste "imahn" (sp?) wat hulle verlosser gaan wees ?

Ta-An
Mar 12th 2011, 06:10 PM
Die twaalfde?? :hmm:

Johnny
Mar 15th 2011, 07:50 AM
The Twelve ImamsFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search The Twelve Imams are the spiritual and political successors to Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, in the Twelver or Ithna-‘ashariyyah branch of Shī‘ah Islam.[1] According to the theology of Twelvers, the successor of Muhammad is an infallible human individual who not only rules over the community with justice, but also is able to keep and interpret the Divine Law and its esoteric meaning. The Prophet and Imams' words and deeds are a guide and model for the community to follow; as a result, they must be free from error and sin, and must be chosen by divine decree, or nass, through the Prophet.[2][3] It is believed by Twelver Shi'a Muslims that the Twelve Imams were foretold in the Hadith of the Twelve Successors.It is believed in Twelver and Ismaili Shī‘ah Islam that ‘aql, divine wisdom, was the source of the souls of the Prophets and Imams and gave them esoteric knowledge called ḥikmah and that their sufferings were a means of divine grace to their devotees.[1][4][5] Although the Imam was not the recipient of a divine revelation, he had a close relationship with God, through which God guides him, and the Imam in turn guides the people. The Imam was also guided by secret texts in his possession, such as al-Jafr and al-Jamia. Imamate, or belief in the divine guide is a fundamental belief in the Twelver and Ismaili Shī‘ī branches and is based on the concept that God would not leave humanity without access to divine guidance.[6]According to Twelvers, there is always an Imam of the Age, who is the divinely appointed authority on all matters of faith and law in the Muslim community. ‘Alī was the first Imam of this line, and in the Twelvers' view, the rightful successor to the Prophet of Islam, followed by male descendants of Muhammad through his daughter Fatimah Zahra. Each Imam was the son of the previous Imam, with the exception of Husayn ibn Ali, who was the brother of Hasan ibn Ali.[1] The twelfth and final Imam is Muhammad al-Mahdi, who is believed by the Twelvers to be currently alive, and hidden until he returns to bring justice to the world.[6]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Imams

hein
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:54 PM
Soos ek dit verstaan is die koran gebaseer op die bybel net baie verdraai, ? en is die messias waarop hulle wag , die persoon wat ons beskou as die antichris

Son of the South
Jul 3rd 2011, 06:31 AM
Ek is nou al so hele rukkie besig met die boek Mosques & Miracles (http://www.amazon.com/Mosques-Miracles-revealing-Islam-Grace/dp/0957790554): Revealing Islam and God's Grace van Stuart Robinson. Hy praat nie veel oor die verwagte Moslem Messias nie, maar gee baie goeie agtergrond van hoe Islam ontstaan het en hoe dit wereldwyd toeneem. Hy verduidelik ook waarom vrede met die Mujahuddin net 'n leuen is en dat daar nie einde aan jihad is alvorens die Dar Al-Harb nie die Dawah aanvaar en deel geword het van die Dar Al-Islam nie:
Within these theological constructs the notion of peace is excluded. Objectives of warfare may be postponed, but never surrendered. Dit is 'n uitstekende bron vir enige iemand wat Islam beter wil verstaan.

Ek is nou besig met die laaste deel van die boek waar getuienisse gegee word van hoe die enige God besig is om homself aan Moslems te openbaar. :pp Sjoe! Ons bid te min mense...

Tonyzzz7
Jul 10th 2011, 11:22 PM
Islam is antichrist.
Mohammed is the false prophet of revelation.

RR van Wyk
Jul 14th 2011, 07:13 AM
Wat vir my ontstettend interresant is, is vat enige geloof, amper almal verwag een of ander soort of vorm van "messias" wat moet kom.., selfs die new agers...