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Mar 22nd 2011, 12:41 AM
So I'm guessing that if the gay people get their way, then they will be allowed to make an app to teach people to be gay, but apple won't be allowed to use an app to rescue people from homosexuality. And if they win this one, then computers won't be allowed to connect to Christian websites by the end of it all. Today's double standards are something else, but I guess that's to be expected considering the times we are entering into. Gee, even during Abraham's day, the people were so pro-gay that they would rather violate a person and force their homosexuality on someone who doesn't want it, than to see a way out of it...ie the angels who rescued Lot and family. That's a frightening thought.


"There's an app for that."
The catchphrase coined by Apple and their advertising gurus to sell iPhones and iPads (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=11cenu4qs/*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrsfeyLzyg) has become so ubiquitous that it's even been parodied on Sesame Street (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=11c9dij99/*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhkxDIr0y2U). Still, few would have ever thought that the tech giant—which, like many other Silicon Valley concerns, boasts a progressive profile on many cultural issues, and extends domestic-partner benefits to gay and lesbian employees—would condone an app that purports to "cure" homosexuality (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=13m2p4ofd/*http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368152/Apple-gay-rights-groups-approving-iPhone-app-cure-homosexuality.html). It would seem an even greater stretch for Apple and company founder and CEO Steve Jobs to make such an application available though its iTunes store (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=126bv38ht/*http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/exodus-international/id418794954?mt=8).
Yet the app—by a ministry group called Exodus International (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=12knfcjts/*http://exodusinternational.org/2011/03/exodus-releases-new-smartphone-application/)—is right there, along the thousands of other iPhone apps available to plugged in Apple users. And this appears to be the point at which many of Apple's cultish fans—including plenty of gay activists—are drawing the line. No, they say: There's not actually an app for that.
The Exodus ministry seeks to promote the "ex-gay" movement—promulgating the testimony of people who claim to have been cured of homosexuality through Christ. The target audience for the smart-phone app, its makers say, are "homosexual strugglers." The idea is to teach gay people that they have a choice when it comes to their sexuality, a choice to choose "freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus."
Of course, providing a tech platform for a particular spiritual or ideological movement doesn't signify an endorsement of its point of view. At the same time, however, as Gawker's Ryan Tate (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=10k1o1i9u/*http://gawker.com/#%215713837/apple-embroiled-in-huge-gay-rights-fight) noted during an earlier controversy over a gay-themed app, "every time Apple approves an app, it implies moral endorsement of the content of that app."
And since average Apple user is younger and more culturally tolerant of homosexuality, word of the Exodus app has sparked a fast-growing protest As of this writing, more than 100,000 people have signed a Change.org petition calling on Apple to abolish it (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=132do9e0b/*http://www.towleroad.com/2011/03/petitioners-demanding-apple-remove-ex-gay-app-nears-100000.html). What's more, some who've purchased it are somewhat baffled by it.
Writes the Atlantic's Nicholas Jackson (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/yblog_thelookout/ts_yblog_thelookout/storytext/apple-steve-jobs-under-fire-for-approving-app-that-claims-to-cure-homosexuality/40769085/SIG=13sdsk4h4/*http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/03/exodus-internationals-gay-cure-app-failed-to-turn-me-straight/72783/):
So I downloaded the (free) app, which was launched on March 8. A giant resource bank, the app contains lists of events, videos and news stories that are carefully curated to reflect the mission of Exodus International, which states that individuals can "grow into heterosexuality." Nothing available on the app would lead me to question my homosexuality, but maybe I'm not fictile enough.
Perhaps the time is ripe for a market solution. Surely, engineers for a competing smart phone, like the Droid, are hard at work preparing to launch a more effective and intuitive app curing people of their straightness?

Mar 22nd 2011, 01:38 AM
I won't comment on the app itself, as I don't know what it consists of specifically. I would say it's quite interesting that people would blindly flail themselves at Apple for this. Particularly with Apple being a large company with a gargantuan array of applications. Steve Job's allowing this app is, IMHO, a show that he is being morally unbiased...Something that you'd think people who purportedly desire tolerance for all viewpoints and ways of life would appreciate. Does it surprise me? No. Very little does these days. All the servant can do is continue to spread compassion and the Word any way he can.

Mar 22nd 2011, 02:47 AM
I agree.
FYI, the app is the exodus app, it states that in the article. The app is exactly what the article says, I've seen the website myself...it's just a place for gays who are seeking to get right with the Lord and don't want to be gay anymore. They can read all kinds of testimonies of real people who used to live that life style and through the power of Christ have been set free. I even read of one man who had a sex change BACK to a man when he became a Christian.

Mar 22nd 2011, 02:57 PM
Get a grip, everyone.

What does "civil rights" have to do with anything being discussed?

If a person (Jobs) builds a device (iphone), he can determine what apps can be used on it and what can't. Free enterprise. If you want a pro-Christian anti-gay phone, start your own phone company. This simply isn't a "civil rights" issue at all.

Mar 22nd 2011, 06:11 PM
Who are you referring to, RK? I have plenty of grip lol. That was my point exactly. It's within Jobs' right to approve any app he feels like, be it Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, secular, etc. As for civil rights, I never mentioned em.

Mar 22nd 2011, 08:26 PM
I mentioned them because the gays are so worried about protecting their "rights" that they want to prevent others from practicing their rights, right to preach the gospel, right create and promote apps, whatever. As far as I am concerned it's all tied into the "rights" of the people of this nation. Whatever you want to call it is fine by me, civil rights was the best I could come up with.

Mar 22nd 2011, 08:43 PM
There is no "right" to either "create or promote" an app. If the owner of the device (Apple) wants to limit apps, then it has every right to do so. Yes, that one is a personal property right!

Mar 29th 2011, 04:53 AM
Almost none of the OP makes any sense at all. Who do you think is not "allowing" "Apple" to "use" an "app" to "rescue" gay people? Do you actually even know what an app is, or Apple, or civil rights? Oh, and then if "they" "win," "computers" will not be "allowed" to "connect to" "Christian sites" anymore. I mean...just...what? What on earth does any of this even mean?

Mar 29th 2011, 04:54 AM
a pro-Christian anti-gay phoneI'd buy that for a dollar. Wait, no I wouldn't.