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vinsight4u8
Dec 10th 2012, 01:15 PM
How about the four angels of Rev. 7:1?
These angels are given the ability to hurt what?

the earth
the sea
the trees

What happens in Rev. 7?

the great tribulation

7:1
"And...four angels...."
7:2
"And I saw another angel ascending from the east..."

So---he came with others from the east.
What did those angels from the east bring with them?
the ways to hurt

the earth
the sea
the trees

What did they do with those seven trumpet plagues?
They handed them off to the four angels.

Rev. 7:2
"...to the four angels, to whom it was given..."

7:3
"Saying, Hurt not...till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

7:14
"...These are they which came out of great tribulation..."

8:1
"And when he had opened the seventh seal..."
8:2
"And I saw the seven angels..."

John sees again those "we" angels that sealed the 144,000 in chapter 7, and then the great tribulation came. The trumpets are over before the 7th seal was opened, but the trumpet sounded angels return in Rev. 8 for their new job.

What is the used to sound a trumpet (angels of Rev. 7) new job?
the first round of the seven vials full

Do they stay up in heaven or just where to bring forth their vials (plagues)?
They come to the earth and pour.

Angels that bring all 21 plagues are in the area of the earth when they cause those plagues.

trumpets sound in heaven -but four earth angels cause the choas

vials - get poured out - by the had been in heaven seven angels

vinsight4u8
Dec 10th 2012, 01:27 PM
What angel carried the trees plague?

It has to be the last angel that came from the east, that spoke in Rev. 7.

7:2
"And I saw another angel ascending from the east...to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea."

The final angel has yet to hand off his plagues against the trees.

7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed..."

That came from the east angel has now given away his plague too.

vinsight4u8
Dec 13th 2012, 01:26 PM
The great tribulation can't happen in Rev. 7 without plagues and earth angels.
The only chapter in Rev. where angels first get plagues is chapter 15.

In chapter 7, angels that will seal people come from the east. These are coming from chapter 15 to bring the plagues needed to allow the time of the great tribulation to begin.
What do they do with their plagues?
They give - deliver - hand off them to the four on the earth angels.

"...four angels, to whom it was given to hurt..."

John is letting us know that he has seen the action of these four angels being given plagues.

vinsight4u8
Dec 13th 2012, 01:34 PM
John did not get to view the sealing of the 144,000 in Rev. 7. This is why in Rev. 14 it has >

"...an hundred forty and four thousand..."

But then, seeing them again as a group, John writes >

"...the hundred forty and four thousand..."
14:3

scottmelve
Dec 22nd 2012, 04:18 AM
I had gone through the posts. I came across with the seven trumpets, According to the Christian Mythology the first six trumpets are used to serve as sa wake up call to the sinners on the Earth and a call to repentance, where each of the trumpet brings with it a plague of more disastrous nature than the one before it and is mokslty used to build anticipation and tells the reader that an alert, announcing or warning about to take place where as the seventh one is like that won't announces these sort of things but sounded the glory is given to God and his kingdom is announced.



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vinsight4u8
Dec 25th 2012, 12:27 AM
Hi scottmelve,


The 7th trumpet plague will be the earthquake referred to in Rev. 11. It is when the two witnesses rise at that same hour --along with the rest of the just.

The trumpet plagues will be put in action by the four on the earth angels of Rev. 7:1.

vinsight4u8
Dec 27th 2012, 12:18 PM
Rev. 7 is missing some of its angels. Where is the first part of their story?

John saw what ascending /coming up/from the east? "another"

So, how many were ahead of this guy?

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