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AngelNSC
Oct 25th 2013, 01:44 PM
:confusedI read in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first".

I have always believed that when we die our "soul/spirit" goes to heaven to be with God and then when Jesus comes back, that then our "bodies" that have turned to dust will be transformed instantly and be caught up with our spirit/soul. So I just wanted some opinions about what others think on this subject please...I wanted to know with Scripture to back it up, if others believe this also or do we go in like a deep sleep when we die and then when Christ returns we will rise and go to heaven to live with Jesus then? I guess it really doesn't matter what happens to us when we die, as long as we are truly saved and have a personal relationship with God and no that oneday, whether immediately when we die go to heaven or when Jesus returns...that's the most important thing is to be saved, but I just wonder about things and that happens to be one of the subjects I wonder about is what happens to a saved person at death?? thanks in advance for your opinions/help:confused

TBM 11
Oct 25th 2013, 03:28 PM
Interesting question. I don't have much study time in this area so I don't feel qualified to comment, but I did find these interesting links.

http://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/media/e/1077/t/explain-on-being-absent-from-the-body--but-present-with-the-lord..aspx

http://www.truthaboutdeath.com/q-and-a/id/1601/doesnt-paul-say-that-to-be-absent-from-the-body-is-to-be-present-with-the-lord.aspx

Aviyah
Oct 25th 2013, 03:31 PM
I don't have much study time in this area so I don't feel qualified to comment

Anyone who can read the Bible is equally qualified to answer than any theologian. :D

TBM 11
Oct 25th 2013, 03:38 PM
Anyone who can read the Bible is equally qualified to answer than any theologian. :D

Okay, would you like to give your opinion on this great question by the OP then?

Aviyah
Oct 25th 2013, 03:58 PM
Okay, would you like to give your opinion on this great question by the OP then?

I'm not qualified :D

TBM 11
Oct 25th 2013, 04:02 PM
Your comment was that anyone that could read the bible was as qualified as any theologian correct? Lets not play games here. The OP asked a very good question. I did not have a biblical answer. So I gave her some links to look over. What have you tried to do?

cuban
Oct 25th 2013, 05:21 PM
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of the One having raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, the One having raised the Christ from the dead will also make your mortal bodies live through the indwelling of His Spirit in you.

Here we are granted a peek at the miraculous "physics" of our Creator :D:

1Co 15:35 But someone will say, How are the dead raised? And with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Foolish one! What you sow is not made alive unless it dies.
1Co 15:37 And what you sow, you do not sow the body that is going to be, but a bare grain, (it may be of wheat, or of some of the rest),
1Co 15:38 and God gives it a body according as He willed, and to each of the seeds its own body.


1Co 15:39 Not every flesh is the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another of fish, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 And there are heavenly bodies, and earthly bodies. But the glory of the heavenly is truly different, and that of the earthly different;
1Co 15:41 one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.


1Co 15:42 So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body; there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


1Co 15:45 So also it has been written, "The" first "man", Adam, "became a living soul;" the last Adam a life-giving Spirit. (Gen. 2:7)
1Co 15:46 But not the spiritual first, but the natural; afterward the spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man was out of earth, earthy. The second Man was the Lord out of Heaven. (Gen. 2:7)
1Co 15:48 Such as is the earthy man, such also are the earthy ones. And such as is the heavenly Man, such also are the heavenly ones.


1Co 15:49 And as we bore the image of the earthy man, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
1Co 15:50 And I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood is not able to inherit the kingdom of God, nor does corruption inherit incorruption.


1Co 15:51 Behold, I speak a mystery to you: we shall not all fall asleep, but we shall all be changed.
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet; for a trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 But when this corruptible shall put on incorruption, and this mortal shall put on immortality, then will take place the Word that has been written, "Death was swallowed up in victory."


God bless.

cuban
Oct 25th 2013, 05:31 PM
We believers who are living, are already spiritually positioned in heavenly places with Christ Jesus.(Eph. 2:6)

Col 3:1 If, then, you were raised with Christ, seek the things above, where Christ is sitting at the right of God; (Psa. 110:1)
Col 3:2 mind the things above, not the things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For you died, and your life has been hidden with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 Whenever Christ our life is revealed, then also you will be revealed with Him in glory.

God bless.