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DavidC
Jun 23rd 2017, 05:54 PM
Hi,

I started a similar thread in another place in Growing in Christ and it seems people didn't want to discuss it there, so am hoping it can be discussed here.

Basically, I would like to know if demons can possess objects or homes, or if a home has something strange happening in it, is it a spirit of a deceased person that "can't find its way".

Also, do you all think people can be possessed by demons now? If so, does anyone have the power to expel them? Does it take training?

Thank you!

Trivalee
Jun 23rd 2017, 06:18 PM
Hi,

I started a similar thread in another place in Growing in Christ and it seems people didn't want to discuss it there, so am hoping it can be discussed here.

Basically, I would like to know if demons can possess objects or homes, or if a home has something strange happening in it, is it a spirit of a deceased person that "can't find its way".

Also, do you all think people can be possessed by demons now? If so, does anyone have the power to expel them? Does it take training?

Thank you!

Demons certainly can inhabit both animate and nonanimate objects. However, I don't believe in the so-called TV paranormal or haunted homes stories. But strictly on Biblical terms, yes, demons can possess anything.

But there's no such thing as a spirit that can't find it's way. Heb 9:27 "it's appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". That said, I've heard real stories from families and friends of those whose loved ones died sudden tragic deaths. They sometimes see the deceased in their dream.

With prayers, using the Blood of Jesus as a weapon, the spirit can be cast out.

karenoka27
Jun 24th 2017, 12:27 PM
I think demons can be anywhere, in a home or a person or an animal.
Mark 5 and Luke 8 speak of demons in a man and then entering a herd of pigs.
I do not believe that when we die, our souls wander this earth. I don't see that in the Bible anywhere.

DavidC
Jun 24th 2017, 05:40 PM
Thanks for your responses Trivalee and karenoka27.

Another question, would it be possible if an inanimate object was possessed, when a believer walked into a room, it would be repelled and fly away from that believer?

Asking to see if anyone has experienced this?

Walls
Jun 25th 2017, 04:14 PM
From the narratives of scripture we can ascertain the following:

Demons are disembodied spirits looking for a body to dwell in (Matt.8:16)
Demons live in the sea if they are not in a body. In the "dry" they are discomfited (Matt.12:43)
Demons belong to Satan's domain but are not angels. Angels have bodies
As a spirit, a demon is powerless to physically disrupt when out of a body
Demon's have been around long enough to know Who Jesus was when men did not. They probably date to Satan's rebellion before Adam was
Demon's are probably the "familiar spirits" of seances. They know the past but not the future
Their end is to be raised from the sea and face the White Throne of Revelation 20 to be cast into the Lake of Fire (20:13)

The casting out of a demon is EXCLUSIVE to some Christians (Mk.16:17). Satan would never cast out one of his army as it would damage it irreparably (Mk.3:22-26). But casting out a demon without Christ's command is regarded as a "work of iniquity" (Matt.7:22-23).

We take it from the narrative of Job that any spirit cannot attack or enter a man unless (1) God allows it (as in the case of king Saul), and (2) the man or woman allows it (e.g. 1st Sam.28). It seems that men in general have a "barricade" from God against them. That is, God protects men in general from the effects of demons. This barricade can be weakened by drugs and/or a willingness to entertain spirits like being a necromancer.

Trivalee
Jun 25th 2017, 05:13 PM
Thanks for your responses Trivalee and karenoka27.

Another question, would it be possible if an inanimate object was possessed, when a believer walked into a room, it would be repelled and fly away from that believer?

Asking to see if anyone has experienced this?

Yes, that is possible. A Christian in right standing with God can repel demons with prayer.

DavidC
Jun 25th 2017, 07:54 PM
From the narratives of scripture we can ascertain the following:

Demons are disembodied spirits looking for a body to dwell in (Matt.8:16)
Demons live in the sea if they are not in a body. In the "dry" they are discomfited (Matt.12:43)
Demons belong to Satan's domain but are not angels. Angels have bodies
As a spirit, a demon is powerless to physically disrupt when out of a body
Demon's have been around long enough to know Who Jesus was when men did not. They probably date to Satan's rebellion before Adam was
Demon's are probably the "familiar spirits" of seances. They know the past but not the future
Their end is to be raised from the sea and face the White Throne of Revelation 20 to be cast into the Lake of Fire (20:13)

The casting out of a demon is EXCLUSIVE to some Christians (Mk.16:17). Satan would never cast out one of his army as it would damage it irreparably (Mk.3:22-26). But casting out a demon without Christ's command is regarded as a "work of iniquity" (Matt.7:22-23).

We take it from the narrative of Job that any spirit cannot attack or enter a man unless (1) God allows it (as in the case of king Saul), and (2) the man or woman allows it (e.g. 1st Sam.28). It seems that men in general have a "barricade" from God against them. That is, God protects men in general from the effects of demons. This barricade can be weakened by drugs and/or a willingness to entertain spirits like being a necromancer.

Why is casting out demons exclusive to only some Christians?

What is a necromance?
Thanks.

Walls
Jun 25th 2017, 08:54 PM
Why is casting out demons exclusive to only some Christians?

What is a necromance?
Thanks.


In Mark 16 the casting out of demons is not a regular occurrence. It is a "sign" that "follows" Christians. That means, these occurrences are few and far between. They are not the NORM, not an everyday occurrence.
But more than this, in Matthew 10:28 the Twelve are empowered to cast out demons. But later, in Chapter 17:14-21 these same APOSTLES could not cast out a demon. Even if all Christians were empowered to do this, Christianity is rank with unbelief and weakness, like the 9 Apostles who were left at the foot of the mountain of Transfiguration.
Moreover, in Acts 16 Paul raised up a Church of believers. In verse 16 is to "we" which would indicate a group of Christians and in verse 17 we have one of the party of "us" Luke, the author of Acts, also indicating a group of Christians. But the demon persisted "many days" (verse 18). It is interesting that none of these Christians, including Luke, could, or would, cast out the demon, and it took Paul some days of irritation to use his power. 2nd Corinthians 12:12 shows this power; "Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds."
Casting a demon out, even by our Lord Jesus, is not by any power of man. It is "the finger of God" (Lk.11:20). God does not give all gifts and power to all Christians (1st Cor.12:27-31).


A Necromancer is a man or woman who seeks to contact the dead - a sin punishable by death under the Law of Moses (Deut.18:9-12).