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Aman
May 6th 2007, 10:04 PM
According to tradition Adam was made on the 6th Day. Adam was Created in God's Image on the 6th Day, but he was formed of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day, according to Genesis 2:4-7

Gen 2:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=4&version=kjv#4)¶These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 1:9 shows that the 1st Earth was made on the 3rd Day.

Gen 2:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=5&version=kjv#5)And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground.

To confirm the fact that this narrative is speaking of the 3rd Day, this verse is speaking of a time BEFORE the plants and herbs which were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12

Gen 2:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=6&version=kjv#6)But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Gen 2:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=7&version=kjv#7)And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Why do we teach children that Adam was made on the 6th Day? Is tradition more important than Scripture?

Adam was made on the 3rd Day, Before the plants, herbs, and rain. That's why he's there at the beginning of the 6th Day to name the animals the LORD made from the dust.

In Love,
Aman

Big T
May 6th 2007, 10:29 PM
Gen 2:1
Thus the heavens and earth were finished...

This shows everything was complete and must be the sixth day.

Gen 2:5 shows that everything was growing, therefore it must be past the 3rd day.

Gen 2:7 is after all of these events.

Aman
May 7th 2007, 12:30 AM
Gen 2:1
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Thus the heavens and earth were finished...
Big:>>This shows everything was complete and must be the sixth day.

Dear Big, When God "finishes" a work, it is brought to Perfection or God didn't do it. When God Finishes His Creation, it will be Perfect, forever. This will Not happen until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet and ALL animals become vegetarians. The Prophecy of Gen 1:30 has Never been fulfilled and will Not be fulfilled until the end of the present 6th Day or Age.

Gen 2:5 shows that everything was growing, therefore it must be past the 3rd day.

Gen 2:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=5&version=kjv#5)And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew:

I'm sorry, but this vese is speaking of a time BEFORE everything was growing. This is when the LORD made Adam, as a Potter would mold the clay.


Gen 2:7 is after all of these events.

Then I suppose you think that the verses which lead up to Gen 2:7 were put there to be ignored. The verses identify a Specific Day of the Creation, the 3rd Day.

In Love,
Aman

Dunedanranger
May 7th 2007, 04:14 AM
Dear Big, When God "finishes" a work, it is brought to Perfection or God didn't do it. When God Finishes His Creation, it will be Perfect, forever.

So it escapes you that Perfection may be lost?


I'm sorry, but this vese is speaking of a time BEFORE everything was growing. This is when the LORD made Adam, as a Potter would mold the clay.


Part of the reason it isn't growing is that "there was not a man to till the ground."


Then I suppose you think that the verses which lead up to Gen 2:7 were put there to be ignored. The verses identify a Specific Day of the Creation, the 3rd Day.


And what lead you to believe that those verses refer to the third day?

Aman
May 7th 2007, 01:20 PM
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Dear Big, When God "finishes" a work, it is brought to Perfection or God didn't do it. When God Finishes His Creation, it will be Perfect, forever.

So it escapes you that Perfection may be lost?

Dear Dune, It is impossible for God to "lose" perfection. If He did, then Heaven would Never be Perfect. Genesis 2:1 tells us that God's Work is Finished (Heb-brought to Perfection) at the end of the present 6th Day.

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I'm sorry, but this vese is speaking of a time BEFORE everything was growing. This is when the LORD made Adam, as a Potter would mold the clay.

Part of the reason it isn't growing is that "there was not a man to till the ground."

Thus we have the reason that God uses the 3 verses leading up to the formation of Adam. He wanted us to know that He was speaking of the 3rd Day, when Adam was formed. It was Before the plants, herbs, and rain.


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Then I suppose you think that the verses which lead up to Gen 2:7 were put there to be ignored. The verses identify a Specific Day of the Creation, the 3rd Day.

And what lead you to believe that those verses refer to the third day?

Gen 2:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=4&version=kjv#4)¶These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

This verse is speaking of the Day the LORD (YHWH) made the Earth. Gen 1:9-13 shows that the Earth was made on the 3rd Day. This verse also speaks of the formation of HeavenS (Plural), showing that other HeavenS were made at the beginning of the 3rd Day. The 1st Heaven (Singular) was made on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8 Our Heaven or Universe is one of the Heavens made, and the 3rd Heaven of ll Corinthians 12:2 is the other.

Gen 2:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=5&version=kjv#5)And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground.

The time period being spoken of is repeated. It is a time BEFORE the plants and herbs. This time period MUST be before the formation of the plants and herbs on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12 The time is AFTER the Earth and other HeavenS were made, but BEFORE the plants and herbs. The ONLY time period which fits is the 3rd Day.

Gen 2:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=6&version=kjv#6)But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Gen 2:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=7&version=kjv#7)And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Now we see why the time period is important. These verses show that Adam was formed physically on the 3rd Day. Like ALL men, Adam was first made physically, not Spiritually.

Adam and Eve were Created in God's Image on the 6th Day. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2 Adam could NOT have been Created in God's Image with Eve on the 3rd Day since Eve was Not made until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22

IOW, Adam and Eve were born again, or Created in Christ, who is the Image of the invisible God. This shows that we will be able to meet and speak with our first father and mother, in Heaven.

In Love,
Aman

divaD
May 7th 2007, 03:55 PM
According to tradition Adam was made on the 6th Day. Adam was Created in God's Image on the 6th Day, but he was formed of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day, according to Genesis 2:4-7


In Love,
Aman


Genesis 1;26 *And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 *So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


In these verses, which is the 6th day of creation, God makes one man(Genesis 2:7 *And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.)

God gives dominion to Adam (mankind) over all the animals(Genesis 2:20 *And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.)


And finally God creates mankind by creating woman(Genesis 2:21 *And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 *And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.)



Genesis 1:28 *And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


And now, one man will become mankind because of woman. God now tells them to be fruitful and multiply.

The only logical conclusion is Adam was created on the 6th day, just as the bible states.

RogerW
May 7th 2007, 04:11 PM
According to tradition Adam was made on the 6th Day. Adam was Created in God's Image on the 6th Day, but he was formed of the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day, according to Genesis 2:4-7

Gen 2:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=4&version=kjv#4)¶These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 1:9 shows that the 1st Earth was made on the 3rd Day.

Gen 2:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=5&version=kjv#5)And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground.

To confirm the fact that this narrative is speaking of the 3rd Day, this verse is speaking of a time BEFORE the plants and herbs which were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12

Gen 2:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=6&version=kjv#6)But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Gen 2:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=7&version=kjv#7)And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Why do we teach children that Adam was made on the 6th Day? Is tradition more important than Scripture?

Adam was made on the 3rd Day, Before the plants, herbs, and rain. That's why he's there at the beginning of the 6th Day to name the animals the LORD made from the dust.

In Love,
Aman

If you read Genesis from the beginning then you find the heavens and earth are created first. That the earth was without form until

The beginning according to Scripture the heavens and earth were created, but as yet without form or light Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. The beginning all part of day one creation according to Scripture

Still the beginning, which is designated as day One according to Scripture, not tradition: Ge 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Second day according to Scripture Ge 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Third day according to Scripture, not when earth is created, it has already been created on the first day or in the beginning, but when the earth is separated from the water and becomes dry land with form and life. Ge 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

I'll skip days four and five and go to day six according to Scripture, not tradition Ge 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Where in the above narrative do you find Adam or the earth created on the third day? And what do you mean by "the first earth?"

RW

OneStep
May 7th 2007, 04:21 PM
And then...we also have the number 6 corresponding to man.....
Why is it that God amazes me in ALL His Word...

Big T
May 7th 2007, 07:42 PM
Gen 2:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Gen&chapter=2&verse=5&version=kjv#5)And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew:

I'm sorry, but this vese is speaking of a time BEFORE everything was growing. This is when the LORD made Adam, as a Potter would mold the clay.No need to apologize. The verse is simply stating that God made the plants BEFORE they were in the ground. Please read everything. Taking a part of a sentance will significantly change the meaning.


Then I suppose you think that the verses which lead up to Gen 2:7 were put there to be ignored. The verses identify a Specific Day of the Creation, the 3rd Day.
I did not say that. Nor should you suppose that. If I thought that, I would not have quoted them nor corrected you on them.

Princeoflight
May 17th 2007, 10:58 PM
Although pre-adamic man had been around for millions of years, Adam was introduced much later.

Adam was born on 10 Tishri 4027 BC, sinned on 14 Nisan 3993 BC.
Jesus was born on 10 Tishri 2 CE, atoned for sin on 14 Nisan 33 AD

This was the corresponding Ransom. For details visit:

THE Fundamental Pattern:

http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding41.html

OneStep
May 18th 2007, 03:39 PM
So, I take it that Adam was born on a Wednesday? That would correspond with Jesus death on the cross on Wednesday. Eh?