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Keene
Aug 6th 2007, 08:27 PM
Hey all,

Hebrews 8:12 basically says that not only will God forgive you of your sins (if you repent) but he'll also forget them. Making like they never happened in the first place.

But I've also heard it said (sorry, can't remember where) that we'll be accountable for every idle thought on the day of judgement. Is this meaning for everyone (seemingly contridicting Hebrews 8:12) or just for those who are not saved?

Thanks for the help!

Teke
Aug 6th 2007, 08:36 PM
The answer is in Jesus parable.:)

Mat 18:23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

Mat 18:24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

Mat 18:25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

Mat 18:26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

Mat 18:28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took [him] by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

Mat 18:29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

Mat 18:31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

Mat 18:32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

Mat 18:33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

Mat 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

Sold Out
Aug 7th 2007, 02:21 PM
Hey all,

Hebrews 8:12 basically says that not only will God forgive you of your sins (if you repent) but he'll also forget them. Making like they never happened in the first place.

But I've also heard it said (sorry, can't remember where) that we'll be accountable for every idle thought on the day of judgement. Is this meaning for everyone (seemingly contridicting Hebrews 8:12) or just for those who are not saved?

Thanks for the help!

Matthew 12:36, "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

Sin has two consequences....eternal and temporal. We are ETERNALLY forgiven for all our sin...past, present & future. We will never pay the price for our sin eternally because of what Jesus did.

In Matthew 12, Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees who were giving him a hard time for healing on the sabbath. They were the professional 'do-gooders' and Jesus made sure to point out that their mere words would condemn them on judgment day.

That's not to say that we won't be held accountable to what Jesus is saying here. Our words, if they are idle (unprofitable), will have consequences temporally, because what you say could cause harm to another spiritually.

sudds
Aug 7th 2007, 02:52 PM
On the final Judgment Day, I will surely stand before God to get my reward. This is true for all christians.

I won't have to account for the many sins I've committed because they've been forgiven and forgotten. I sure don't won't to remind the Lord about them.