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    Our nation seems poised to suffer the awful consequences of turning from God, and refusing to repent.

    America has enjoyed many undeserved blessings from God. Although one of the youngest nations, she quickly rose to become the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, and the most envied. I believe God blessed us because our nation was founded, not on pagan gods and goddesses--as most nations are, nor upon atheistic communism, but upon faith in the one, true God Almighty and His Christ, and upon the godly principles of truth, morality, honor and justice. We thereby became a beacon of God's light to the world, and a symbol of the blessings bestowed upon those who put their faith and trust in Him.

    But we have wandered far from the precepts we built our nation on, and our once prevalent faith in God and moral integrity is now found only in isolated pockets of American society. it certainly is not apparent in our government--because it is not present in the officials and officers appointed to oversee its operations.

    The executive, legislative and judicial branches are all virtually devoid of faith, morality and honor, and bloated with greed, corruption, and a mockery of the original American ideals they mysteriously extol around election time.

    Faith and morality have been banished from all educational institutions funded by state and local governments--leaving in its place, a trail of shootings, drug use, and an immoral mindset as a clear consequence of removing God's influence on the children and young adults who are the future of America. Even speaking the name of our Savior in a classroom setting is forbidden.

    Abortions for teenage girls--without notifying their parents, and distribution of condoms, armed police officers, metal detectors and drug-sniffing dogs in public schools today are a sad testimony to the moral depravity in our society since godly values are no longer part of a child's education. Once one of the safest places for a child outside the home, school has become a place of danger and corruption--the result of ostensibly "protecting" children from Religion.

    Some argue that godliness should be taught in church and in the home, not school. I would answer that, instruction in godly virtue and the nurturing of traits that exemplify a good citizen and human being, should not have boundaries, as it was these very values that made America great. No person has ever been harmed by exposure to Christian principles, but many have been helped. Those who champion the cause of "separation of church and state" should study the real history of America: they will find that faith in God and Biblical precepts were an integral, natural part of both the government and educational institutions in our early period. A study of world history will reveal that true Christianity brought the world out of the Dark Ages, and made the world a much better place to live.

    The first amendment was crafted into the Constitution to ensure the right to freedom of worship without interference from the government. It has instead, been twisted into a law authorizing the government to restrict that right.

    We have laws permitting a baby to be murdered, and torn from the womb--designed by God to be a sanctuary of love and safety, on the pretext that it is a "fetus," not a human, and therefore not entitled to protection under the law. And yet, animals--which are not human either--have stringent laws in place to protect them, not only from death, but from harm.

    One such law requires that a representative from the Humane Society be on site when a movie featuring animals is made, to ensure that no animals are harmed. One can find a branch of the ASPCA on the same city block as an abortion clinic. God loves all his creatures, but only man was made in his likeness. It is a disgrace when animals are treated more humanely than humans.

    Proponents of same sex marriage are presently enjoying great success in wearing down resistance. The crusade has made great strides in the last year or so, with several states passing laws that sanction and endorse the right of two men or two women to become legally married--making the honorable estate of marriage a perverse mockery of an institution ordained by God for a man and a woman. To those who hold more traditional values, however, such unions--unnatural, as evidenced by their inability to produce offspring--will never be holy matrimony, nor something God has joined together.

    There is even a cry by some individuals to pass legislation removing the word "God" from the pledge of allegiance, and "in God we trust" from U.S. coins.

    All these things are being done at the behest of, and to appease, a handful of people who hate both God and America. Depending on the poll you trust, some 70 percent of Americans say they believe in God. Why is an insignificant minority dictating the way things are to be for the majority? Where are God's people? Why are they silent, as He is being banned from American society?

    We as a nation, are in decline, and becoming both financially and morally bankrupt. The prestige we once held in the world is all but gone--along with world market confidence. People were once respected among the nations because they were Americans; now they are targeted for that reason.

    Yet, the opinion of the world is irrelevant. What does God think of us? It is critical to our survival that we as a nation, turn from sin and rebellion, pray for a healing of our nation, and rebuild the foundation of faith and godly principles that has eroded away in the last century or so--before our nation collapses, never to rise again.

    We should look to the Hebrew people of old as an object lesson. We read in the OT that they repeatedly became complacent, turned from God, and fell into transgression. God would send prophets to warn them, give them space for repentance, and finally let judgment fall upon them when they would not turn from rebellion and wickedness. Eventually, they would cry out to God, and He would deliver them.

    We are at the point where God's messengers in America are imploring the people to realize the very real danger of God's impending judgment, but few are listening. Few even give God a thought, indifferent to His word, if not mocking.

    His influence--even public references to Him, are being systematically eradicated from American society. God is warning us to seek refuge in the ark that is Christ, because a great flood of divine judgment is coming.

    Yet, "as it was in the days of Noah," most people are ignoring the warnings, oblivious to the reality of what is coming...until it's too late.

    Even many churches are being cowed into silence with the threat of losing their tax exempt status--hardly a testimony to their faith that God is able to to supply their needs. The Christian ministry is quickly being overrun by the very type of hireling Jesus warned about, more concerned with their own well-being than that of the flock they oversee.

    Whatever happened to the fire and brimstone preachers, whose emotional sermons resounded off the ecclesiastical rafters, and made the consequences of sin seem frightening enough to truly send people running to Jesus for Salvation?

    We need revival. Not in a few churches, but all across America. And not just a few extra services before we go pig out at Captain D's or Golden Corral. America needs a true, sackcloth-and-ashes, fasting type of revival, with prayers and petitions ascending before the throne of God without ceasing. We need men and women who will not be silenced by the powers that be, and are not afraid to speak out against the perversion and distortion of the Gospel, no matter who it angers, and no matter whose toes get stepped on. In fact, America is in desperate NEED of a good toe-stomping.

    America has spiritual cancer, and it's spreading quickly, corrupting and destroying everything it touches. It needs to be cut out wherever it is found--amputate, if necessary to save the body. Death and life cannot co-exist in the same body. What fellowship has light with darkness?

    Political correctness and watered down religiosity are polluting the Gospel message and turning churches into social clubs that take great care not to offend anyone with talk of Jesus. God help us.

    We have to regain the sincere faith in God we once had, humble ourselves before Him in true repentance, and pray for His intervention; because we are headed down the road to ruination--to history's graveyard of fallen and disgraced, once-mighty nations.

    America's future ultimately hangs on remembering her past, and rediscovering what's she's lost.

    The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)

    Comments 24 Comments
    1. ladynichols's Avatar
      ladynichols -
      AMEN!Finally someone said it.
      I just pray that our Lord and Savior Jesus comes soon.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      Hi ladynichols,
      The problem is not that it's not being said, but that few are listening. I believe 9/11, along with a recent increase in storms, tornadoes, floods, the oil disaster, impending economic woes, and other things are a call for America to get her house in order. And yes, Jesus is our only hope.
    1. roaring tiger's Avatar
      roaring tiger -
      This is worldwide cancer and almost all government and society are corrupted.your
      obervation are all true not in America alone
      but in most humankind.Number are those believers left with fear to God.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      Yes, but all nations were not founded on faith in God, and adherence to godly principles, as America was. It's our departure from those things, and the need to return to them that is the focal point of the article, not simply the spread of sin itself--which is indeed worldwide.
    1. bulldog1974's Avatar
      bulldog1974 -
      Amen. We use to say the Pledge of Allegence and a prayer before class every day.
    1. Free Indeed's Avatar
      Free Indeed -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner55 View Post
      Yes, but all nations were not founded on faith in God, and adherence to godly principles, as America was.
      Interestingly, though, most of the European nations *were* founded on Christianity. It was the United States that was meant to be set up as a secular form of government, based on the ideals of the Enlightenment.
    1. Christ Warrior's Avatar
      Christ Warrior -
      This might be a blessing in disguise. We as the American Church could use this situation for witnessing and showing the truth. For example, if the country is being plagued with natural disasters, we could use that opportunity to comfort and nurture the victims with God's love. I heard that when 9/11 struck, there was a rise in church attendance for a few months; it appears that tragedy reveals that we are not, and can not be in control of our lives (making people more receptive to the truth). Also, it's much easier to spread the gospel to the poor than to the rich and prosperous.

      If God takes away a nation's "blessings" it may not entirely mean that he is angry with us; He might be testing us how our faith changes occurring certain situations (or it could be both).We don't necessarily have to be a "blessed" nation to feel God's love or follow His commands.

      Am I saying that we shouldn't pray for this country? Of course not. We should pray for healing, and I do agree that we need a good "toe-stomping", yet I believe that God may have given us a golden opportunity and that we should make lemonade out of these lemons.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      God does move in mysterious ways, and His ways are past finding out. And I am definitely a believer that God can make something good come out of a bad situation. (If man had not sinned, we would not have seen the amazing demonstration of God's fathomless love at Calvary).

      Yes, I agree that tragedies like 9/11 are often a wake up call that turns people to prayer and spiritual guidance. But sometimes only until the problems are over--as the Hebrews did time and time again. I believe the disasters we are seeing are a warning to repent, and that they will become increasingly worse until we either turn to God as a nation, or fall as a nation.

      Make no mistake: America is on a road away from God, and if we don't turn back, America as we know it, will not survive. Sincere repentance and a return to godliness, I believe, is the only way to do that.

      Every person on earth is either serving God's purposes, or Satan's. I think we all want to be hard at work on the right side when Jesus comes back.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      Quote Originally Posted by Knight Templar View Post
      Interestingly, though, most of the European nations *were* founded on Christianity. It was the United States that was meant to be set up as a secular form of government, based on the ideals of the Enlightenment.
      Actually they *adopted* Christianity, and basically incorporated it into their culture--unlike America, which chose to found its Constitution on the godly precepts from the beginning.

      Christianized Europe was a monarchy, but was also the home of enormously wealthy bankers, who saw colonizing the "New World" as a source of financial gain, and a springboard for a global Illuminati agenda. Of that I have no doubt. The symbols on our dollar bill is just one example of the enduring legacy of that presence in early America. Yet, the words, "In God We Trust" demonstrate a deference to, and faith in, God and His sovereign rule.

      The Enlightenment movement had its plans all right, but they were subverted by God's plans. The French Revolution and the American Revolution demonstrate the difference in how the liberators in each country envisioned a new beginning. France chose the godless Enlightenment route, while America sought out the enlightenment of God's grace and blessing. Two very different approaches, with two very different outcomes.

      Those forces of darkness who call themselves "light" have been held at bay in this country for 200 years. Now the godly principles that secured God's favor are rapidly disappearing, taking that favor with it. Dark forces are now closing in around us, seeking to draw us into a global, socialist society. We need God's intervention before it's too late.
    1. Free Indeed's Avatar
      Free Indeed -
      It cannot be said that the American and French Enlightenment were different. Indeed, Benjamin Franklin and Voltaire were considered two of the most important philosophers of the Enlightenment, along with Jefferson and Locke. Their ideals and ideas were very similar, and in many cases identical.

      Franklin even had Jefferson revise the Declaration of Independence because Jefferson, a Deist, wrote that "we hold these truths to be sacred...." It was Franklin's complaint that the term sounded too religious, with which Jefferson agreed. The term was therefore changed to "self-evident".
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      Quote Originally Posted by Knight Templar View Post
      It cannot be said that the American and French Enlightenment were different. Indeed, Benjamin Franklin and Voltaire were considered two of the most important philosophers of the Enlightenment, along with Jefferson and Locke. Their ideals and ideas were very similar, and in many cases identical.
      I didn't suggest that they were different in nature or original intent, brother--only that one pushed God out as part of the agenda, while the other was itself pushed aside in favor of true enlightenment found in God.

      As I stated earlier, I'm aware that there were good and evil forces in play in America's founding, and they have battled ever since. It was the conviction of godly precepts in our people that kept it at bay until now. And it is our abandonment of those precepts, and ouster of God from our society that has allowed those dark forces to sweep in on a tidal wave of corruption and morality. What we are seeing being facilitated by the current administration, is a bridge back to the "dark" enlightenment of a new world order.
      (And yes, I believe that is the "Novus Ordo Seclorum" referred to on our dollar bill)

      Franklin even had Jefferson revise the Declaration of Independence because Jefferson, a Deist, wrote that "we hold these truths to be sacred...." It was Franklin's complaint that the term sounded too religious, with which Jefferson agreed. The term was therefore changed to "self-evident".
      "Sacred" was too religious, yet references to the Creator, and our rights and freedoms being God-given, were not?
    1. Free Indeed's Avatar
      Free Indeed -
      I think I see what you mean, but the properties of the French Revolution were actually anti-Enlightenment. It was the Enlightenment that popularized the idea of democracy, individual liberty, freedom of religion, etc. The horrors of the French Revolution obviously did not promote these values.

      As for allusion to God in the Declaration, it was a deistic allusion, referring to the "God of Nature" believed in by Deists (like Jefferson and Franklin). They had a decidedly non-religious concept of God, although they certainly believed in God's existence.

      "Novus ordo saeclorum" is actually a line borrowed from one of the great poets of the ancient world, Virgil.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      Quote Originally Posted by Knight Templar View Post
      As for allusion to God in the Declaration, it was a deistic allusion, referring to the "God of Nature" believed in by Deists (like Jefferson and Franklin). They had a decidedly non-religious concept of God, although they certainly believed in God's existence.
      Just not in a personal relationship. Yes, the views of Jefferson, Franklin, and others are well known. I wish the many zealous Christians in colonial America like Adams, Whitefield, Samuel Adams and others got the same press coverage.

      "Novus ordo saeclorum" is actually a line borrowed from one of the great poets of the ancient world, Virgil.
      I didn't know that. It takes on a whole new dimension the way it's applied today.
    1. brakelite's Avatar
      brakelite -
      One must remember that although the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written and signed by and large by godly people, those documents were specifically designed to ensure freedom of conscience and religious liberty, even liberty for unbelievers. The US government as a political entity is not, nor ever was , a "Christian" government. And the only true hope for America is not in the "Christianizing" of the government, but in the heartfelt deep life-changing repentant soul-searching conversion of the individual American people.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      No, America was not created a Christian nation--I never implied that.
      But neither was it founded by strict deists who sought to wall off faith from government and society, as is so often suggested today. The truth lies somewhere in between these two extremes.

      What I stated was, Christianity and the Bible impacted colonial America in a very profound way, and promoted the godly principles that instilled virtues like honor and compassion that made us a great nation. The point of my article was simply to bring to mind again, the moral and ethical integrity that once existed here, and to inspire a return it, before it's too late.

      And the only true hope for America is not in the "Christianizing" of the government, but in the heartfelt deep life-changing repentant soul-searching conversion of the individual American people.
      I never suggested "Christianizing" the government. That's not possible. And sincere repentance of America being our only hope, is exactly what I intended to say in my article--and thought I had. When I speak of "America," I'm speaking of each and every individual. One on one is the only way God works.
    1. BrianW's Avatar
      BrianW -
      From the Declaration of Independence:

      When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

      And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Read some of the letters and speeches of certain founding fathers and you will find that God and acting according to Godly principles was in fact central to their ideas of governing our country.
    1. Free Indeed's Avatar
      Free Indeed -
      Brian, yes they were meant to be Godly, but not necessarily "Christian". The Deists, who in large part founded our nation, believed in the existence of God, but did not believe in miracles, the divinity of Christ, etc.

      However, they created a system where everyone could worship, or refrain from worshiping, according to the dictates of his/her own conscience, provided only that they did not interfere with the rights of others. This principle is a rather simple one, but was actually very revolutionary at the time. We often take it for granted now, but it was a very important change in 1776. Remember, before that, the so-called "Christian nations" would often torture and murder non-Christians who refused to convert.
    1. dhammond's Avatar
      dhammond -
      Well written. I do believe though that America will never turn back. As Paul has said, man's heart will turn cold. God is always true to the His Word.
    1. Sojourner's Avatar
      Sojourner -
      Quote Originally Posted by dhammond View Post
      Well written. I do believe though that America will never turn back. As Paul has said, man's heart will turn cold. God is always true to the His Word.
      Thank you dhammond. I think I may have come off a little more "preachy" than I intended, but it saddens me to see the light of the Gospel dimming in this country, and the next generation growing up with a defective moral compass.

      I too have serious concerns about our survival as a nation, but I'd be thrilled if even a few individuals heed the warning, and turn back to God.
    1. brakelite's Avatar
      brakelite -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner55 View Post
      No, America was not created a Christian nation--I never implied that.
      Sorry, my reply wasn't intended as a counter-argument or anything, I was actually agreeing with you, and offering some additional comments to support.
      Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner55 View Post
      But neither was it founded by strict deists who sought to wall off faith from government and society, as is so often suggested today. The truth lies somewhere in between these two extremes.
      I think that what we must acknowledge is that America was embarking on a brand new revolutionary concept, as Knight Templar said. Religious liberty, freedom of conscience. Coming from a Europe that was just emerging from over 1000 years of papal tyranny the founding fathers of your nation were establishing a nation with an exclusively protestant ethic, even though it took some time for even protestants to learn.
      We as Christians have far more to fear from governments with a religious agenda (including 'Christian' agendas...read again Revelation 13:11-17) than any secular government. Interestingly, history tells us that Christian communities thrived very well under the rule of such as Genghis Khan, because he was neutral in matters of religion. (Although he was certainly less than tolerant with those who opposed him politically.)
      Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner55 View Post
      What I stated was, Christianity and the Bible impacted colonial America in a very profound way, and promoted the godly principles that instilled virtues like honor and compassion that made us a great nation. The point of my article was simply to bring to mind again, the moral and ethical integrity that once existed here, and to inspire a return it, before it's too late.
      And as another said, well said. Let us not however forget the past, the price paid for the freedoms we enjoy, and out of frustration or lack of faith,let us not resort to government legislation to reinstate those virtues, as it seems so many in the churches seem to be espousing recently. That my friend, will be a greater calamity than any could imagine.



      Quote Originally Posted by Sojourner55 View Post
      I never suggested "Christianizing" the government. That's not possible. And sincere repentance of America being our only hope, is exactly what I intended to say in my article--and thought I had. When I speak of "America," I'm speaking of each and every individual. One on one is the only way God works.
      Quite true, on all counts.
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