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BibleForums Christian Message Board - Christians Answer https://bibleforums.org/ Are you an Atheist, Agnostic, Non Believer? Post your questions here. en Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:26:39 GMT vBulletin 60 https://bibleforums.org/images/misc/rss.png BibleForums Christian Message Board - Christians Answer https://bibleforums.org/ Who understands and can explain the meaning of Romans 9:3-4? https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/286803-Who-understands-and-can-explain-the-meaning-of-Romans-9-3-4?goto=newpost Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:23:38 GMT Romans 9:3-4 (https://www.religiousforums.com/bible/romans/9:3-4/) states: 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the... Romans 9:3-4 states:
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants,and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

This is the correct understanding of Romans 9:3-4: Paul is saying that he wishes that he could sacrifice himself, his right to Christ's kingdom, for the sake of his brethren the Israelites:

The Israelites were adopted by God of Israel to be his chosen people (Deuteronomy 7:6).

Deuteronomy 7:6
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
The Israelites witnessed God's glory (Exodus 24:17).

Exodus 24:17
And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

The covenants of God of Israel belong to the Israelites (Deuteronomy 29:1) and (Hebrews 8:10):

Deuteronomy 29:1
These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.

Hebrews 8:10
[10]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:



The laws of God of Israel were given to the Israelites because they are his people (Leviticus 26:46):

Leviticus 26:46
[46]These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.

The service of God of Israel through the keeping his laws, statutes, and commandments belong to the Israelites (Exodus 25:2&9) (Deuternomy 4:1):
Exodus 25:2&9
Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering: of every man that giveth it willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering. According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
The promises (Salvation, Repentance, and Forgiveness of Sins, and Kingdom of Heaven) belong to the Israelites (Isaiah 45:17), (Romans 10:1), (Jeremiah 23:6), (Romans 9:27), (Romans 11:26), (Acts 5:31) , (Acts 13:24) , (Revelation 21:12).

The promises are as follows:

Israel will be saved (all people? No, Just Israel):

Isaiah 45:17
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Romans 10:1
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Jeremiah 23:6


In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Romans 9:27
Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Romans 11:26-27
[26]And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Repentance and Forgiveness of Sins will be given to Israel (not Christians or any other nation)

Acts 5:30-31
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 13:23-24
Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
Oh check that script again. Did God raise Jesus unto all nations or Christians. No, God of Israel raised Jesus unto Israel. Oh it makes so much sense now.

Who is getting the Kingdom? Christians all nations? Let's see:
Revelation 21:11-12
Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
[12]And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
Is the Bible for Chrisitianity or Israelites? Bible says the kingdom is for the twelve tribes of Israel. ]]>
Christians Answer amikamisrael https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/286803-Who-understands-and-can-explain-the-meaning-of-Romans-9-3-4