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BibleForums Christian Message Board - Bible Chat https://bibleforums.org/ Questions and answers. Any conceivable topic related to the Bible. en Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:29:03 GMT vBulletin 60 https://bibleforums.org/images/misc/rss.png BibleForums Christian Message Board - Bible Chat https://bibleforums.org/ Are you Equipped (Chamushim) for combat? EX 13:17-17:16 https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276428-Are-you-Equipped-(Chamushim)-for-combat-EX-13-17-17-16?goto=newpost Sat, 19 Jan 2019 03:46:05 GMT PARASHAH: “B'shalach” (when he let go)


EXODUS 13:17-17:16.......JUDGES 4:4-5: 31.....MATT 26:1-75



We are coming down to the “showdown” where Pharaoh gets his just desserts and gets what he deserves for defying the God of Israel, going back on his word to “let Israel go”, you cannot pursue Israel without getting hurt, and Pharaoh and his army got to drink bitter waters, went off the “deep end” received a very fatal “water baptism”.


Yet before all this happens, there are some interesting verses to look at. Exodus 17: 18 states that; “The children of Israel went up armed out of the land of Egypt” yet it also states that Elohim did not lead them through the land of the F’lishtim: (The Philistines) because an encounter with them might bring for war, frighten them and cause them to go back to Egypt. But if they had weapons, why would they fear a battle? One can assume that even though they had weapons if they didn’t know how to use them, they would be no good.


We can say the same thing about a Bible, it is useless in the hands of one who does not know how to use it, or uses it in wrongful ways, inventing “strange” doctrines, or taking verses out of context. The Israelites were ex-slaves, not men of war. Another question, where did they get the weapons? Were the weapons among the spoils of Egypt? They might have been. But here is another view from a derashic perspective (Moral and spiritual)


The word for “armed” in Hebrew which is used is “chamushim” the wise rabbis of old state that this word has roots in the words “chamesh” (the number 5) and “chamishim” (50). So how does this a part in this verse? It is said that it was the 5th generation after Yosef that left Egypt, if a generation is 80 years, it would add up to 400 years. Also, the number 5 symbolizes “grace”. So, the Israelites not only left Egypt with some spears and swords, but they were also armed with the “grace” that Elohim bestowed on them. More important, they were armed with the protection, and the blessings, and the leadership of Elohim who lead them out of Egypt. The number “50” also reminds us of the “50 gates of understanding” which the ancient rabbis say that these are 50 questions that Elohim asked Job at the end of “Sefer Job.”


Another Midrash is that only 1 out of 5 Israelites left Egypt. Now I ask you if all of Israel was witness to the destruction of Egypt by Elohim, why would they want to stay behind? Other sages say that only 1 out of 5 households put blood on their doorposts. Remember that these are ideas presented by unsaved rabbis. However, I ask you again, if Israel is witness to all the miracles and judgments, why would they NOT want to put lamb’s blood on their doorposts?


I would like to answer the question using a question. If we can have eternal life through the blood and sacrifice of Yeshua for our sins, past, present, and future, why do so many people still REJECT Him? The scripture states that ‘Wide is the way that leads to destruction, but narrow is the way that leads to eternal life.’


Another word for “armed” is “equipped”. One can also say that “B’nei Yisrael” went out of Egypt “equipped” with the “5” promises that Adonai gave to His people; 1) Elohim will deliver Israel out from under the burden of Egyptian Slavery; 2) Israel will be REDEEMED by the ARM of Elohim-YHVH; 3) Elohim-YHVH will take Israel as HIS people and will be their GOD; 4) Israel will be brought into the chosen land of promise; 5) The promised land will be an INHERITANCE.


There are also 50 words that are part of our Judeo-Christian faith, there is wisdom and understanding each and every one of them. It took Israel also 50 days from leaving Egypt to receiving the Torah in the land of Midian.


But let’s look at the Peshat, the literal meaning of the word; “armed” it could also come from the Egyptian word “chams” which is “lance” but I ask you to ponder on this. The Israelites were ex-slaves, not warriors. If they came out of Egypt with lances, swords, etc.… How would they know how to use them? Without training, it would be very difficult to be victorious in a battle.


As believers, we have the Word of God, but if we are unskilled in using His WORD, or if we do not know how to interpret it correctly, we could actually do much harm to others, just like a sword in the hands of a child, the child could cut himself, or hurt one of his friends


Another thing to ponder upon is that when the word “Egyptians” is used, the word “Mitzraim” is used, which also means “Egypt” (the nation of). Why “Mitzraim” and not “Mitzrim?” One can say that even though “b’nei Yisrael” left Egypt, Egypt still followed them out! They left with the Egyptian culture, ways, language, and all that was part of them in those 400 years as slaves. It took Elohim one day to take Israel out of Egypt, but it took 40 years to take Egypt out of Israel!


We are the same way, even though we are born-again believers, we still carry around the garbage related to our “Yetzer-Hara” (sin nature) but little by little, the Ruach HaKodesh takes that from us as we mature in the faith.


We might wonder how many Israelites left Egypt, probably about 2 million, plus those Egyptians that “saw the light” plus the sheep and cattle, it was a huge people group that headed eastward across the Sinai Peninsula


and then headed south after reaching “Midol” (an Egyptian army base, where weapons were stored).


We are told...” and it was told the King of Egypt that the people were fled” ...14:5. What? Didn't he already know that? Of course, he did, he let them go! It was probably a team of scouts that were sent out to track down the Israelites to see where they were going, and they gave their report back to Pharaoh. Now, this took place a few days later, now Pharaoh is sorry he let them go. What? Didn't he remember the plagues? Some people never learn, they love misery. Now Pharaoh musters together his entire army! Another mistake, never send out your entire armed forces, always leave behind reserve units. But Pharaoh was not a wise general. This probably took another few days, thus giving Israel about a week's head start, it would take quite a few days for about 2 million people to cross the Sinai Peninsula.


The name “Elohim” and “YHVH” are both used in this Parashah, “Elohim” is used in the beginning of this parashah, in Chap 13:17 meaning the “Strong, powerful God” yet the name YHVH later on, shows the personal name, (coming from “Havayah” meaning “to exist”) shows the personal relationship as “Adonai” which we also say when reading YHVH, anytime the word LORD is used in scripture, it is the name YHVH.


YHVH takes them across the Sinai Peninsula to thus entice the Egyptians, to utterly finish destroying them thus ends the powerful rule of Egypt, Egypt never recovered from that defeat, it formed another army years later, but it never had the power it once had with Rameses, Thutmose, Narmer, and other pharaohs of the past dynasties.


When the Israelites get to the beach, they get ready to cross, in Hebrew, it is known as “Yam Suf” in English, it is known as “Nuweba Beach” it is a tourist resort today in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula. We see that YHVH goes behind the Israelites to protect them, in the form of darkness to the Egyptians, yet light to the Israelites. To us as believers, Yeshua is our light, for us to follow, but to Satan, Yeshua is the conquering king, without the light of Yeshua, without the light of the Torah, we live in darkness, spiritual darkness.


Now YHVH tells Moshe to “lift up your rod and your hand” and cause the sea to part, and it did, divide in two, we read that Israel crossed on “dry land” what with a strong wind to dry up the sea bottom, today this area is known as the “Gulf of Aqaba” they crossed a small stretch of sea bottom, about 10 miles across, to get to the land of Midian, now known as Saudi Arabia, if you go to Google earth, and look up “Nuweba Beach” you can see the area where the Israelites crossed over.


Then, YHVH gives the order to Moshe to raise his hand over the water again, and the waters closed up again and drowned the Egyptian army, the army was half-way across, we see something in the words, “hand” (Yad) and “rod” (Mateh) that make us think. The “rod” is a symbol of authority, of rulership. The “hand” is a symbol of “power and strength” the Torah speaks of YHVH reveling his “Holy Arm” the “arm is connected to the hand” the ancient Hebrew symbol of the “Yod” is the extended “arm and hand” so we can see the message here, “Moshe” is the authority as he shows his leadership by raising his rod, and his hand opens and closes the sea, thus demonstrating his strength and power, but of course, it is not HIS, it is GOD's leadership and strength, being revealed THROUGH Moshe.


When the people follow Moshe, it is as if they are following GOD, trusting in his leadership and strength. When we receive Yeshua as Messiah, we trust in HIM as our leader and our strength, and we follow HIM through his WORD, yet many hope that Yeshua will follow THEM! (not going to happen) .


Today, you can see on YouTube what is left of the Egyptian chariots at the bottom of the Gulf of Aqaba, they are coral formations that look like mushrooms, probably the axle and wheels of the chariots, look up, “The real Exodus Crossing”


When we look at all this from a moral and spiritual insight (Derash) We have been rescued from HaSatan, by our Leader, who is strong, whose “hand” struck the death blow to Satan, whose “hands” bore the nails of Calvary's cross, and who leads us to a new life, we have been “kadoshed” (set apart) to follow HIM for all of our days, (Should we choose to) of course it is a choice, but the “good Shepherd always “looks back” for his lost or misguided sheep, to lead them back to the fold.


We see other events that show God's protection and provision for his people, in verses 22-27 we see the “bitter waters made sweet” Moshe threw into the water “a tree” probably cut it down and threw it in, the waters were made sweet, the Torah is also called, “The TREE of LIFE” (Etz Chaim) that changes our bitterness to sweetness, from sorrow to happiness, from lost to saved.


In chapter 16, the provision of “Manna” in the desert “Bread from Heaven” (Lechem b'Shemayim) another provision from YHVH, it symbolizes “Yeshua the Bread of Life” and in chap 17, “Water from the Rock” this rock is there today in the Saudi Arabian desert very close to Mt. Sinai, it seems to be about 50 feet tall and has a crack down the middle. Go to “google images” and click on “The water rock at Horeb” Moshe was told to “strike the rock” and he did with his staff/rod” and out flowed water so that the congregation and the livestock could drink. This symbolizes “Yeshua the Solid Rock” (Yeshua HaTzur) and Yeshua who is the Living Water. (Yeshua Mayim Chayim). It also symbolizes that Yeshua was “struck ONLY ONCE for our sins at Calvary, ONLY ONCE meaning “nailed to the cross and died one time” and when Moshe got mad later on and struck the rock again, he was punished by God and couldn't enter the promised land, since he “misrepresented” who God is,


JUDGES 4:4-5:31


In this reading, we read about Devorah and Jael, two women of God who played an important role in Israel's history. We read about many “men of God” but very few “women of God” but they are out there, and today, we have many women who are used mightily by God in ministry. Through Deborah and Jael, Sisera and his army was vanquished, just as Moshe was an example as a leader, Deborah was also a leader, and Jael, whose name in Hebrew “Yah-El” means “El (God) is YHVH (Yah) “his Holy Arm revealed”


If you are a woman and reading this Parashah, never say “because I am a woman, God cannot use me” Yes, he can, there are ministries for women, mostly, women ministering to other women, reaching out to those who have been abused in marriages, victims of rape, assault, homeless women, etc. YOU, my sister, have a place in ministry. Venture out and discover what it is, just be available.


MATTHEW 26:1-75


This chapter deals with Yeshua's final days with his talmidim on earth, His anointing by the generous woman who poured the “nard” perfume on him, the betrayal by “Y'hudah Ish Kariot” (Judas, the man from the region of Kariot) in every group of disciples, there are always a few who are “fakers” We have the final “Pesach” dinner with his disciples and Kefa's denial,


But there is a lot we can learn from this, Peter denied knowing Yeshua, out of fear, but Judas openly rejected him by identifying him by a kiss on the cheek. Both sins forgivable, the only difference is that Peter confessed and received forgiveness, while Judas felt remorse, but did not cry out for forgiveness, but went out and committed suicide. There is sin that leads to remorse and a “feeling sorry for oneself” and sin that leads to remorse, and from remorse to confession, and from confession to forgiveness, and from forgiveness to restored fellowship. How many readers out there have chosen the later? We are all sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God, but a confession of sins, and receiving forgiveness is something only you can do, I cannot do it for you. Yeshua receives ALL who come to him, no matter how bad or evil you have been, nor what you have done, no sin is beyond forgiveness. Just ask, and turn from your sin, and forgiveness and restoration are yours.


Shabbat Shalom Rabbi Ben Avraham ]]>
Bible Chat Yakov https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276428-Are-you-Equipped-(Chamushim)-for-combat-EX-13-17-17-16
<![CDATA[Nations Joined To The Lord & 7 Shepherds]]> https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276425-Nations-Joined-To-The-Lord-amp-7-Shepherds?goto=newpost Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:08:53 GMT *I just wanted some opinions as to these scriptures. Do you think these have already happened or are they still future?* **Zechariah 2:11-12 ***And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will... I just wanted some opinions as to these scriptures. Do you think these have already happened or are they still future?



Zechariah 2:11-12 And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto thee. And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.



Micah 5:5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men. ]]>
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expectation/hope? https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276412-expectation-hope?goto=newpost Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:11:56 GMT expectation/hope hope in modern use really isn’t the use when KJV was translated: OED hope n 1. a. Expectation of something desired; desire combined with expectation. hope v. 1. a. intr. To entertain expectation of something desired; to look... expectation/hope
hope in modern use really isn’t the use when KJV was translated:
OED
hope n 1. a. Expectation of something desired; desire combined with expectation.
hope v. 1. a. intr. To entertain expectation of something desired; to look (mentally) with expectation. Const. to, after, of (obs.), for; also with indirect passive.
OED
expectation 1. The action of waiting; the action or state of waiting for or awaiting (something). Now only with mixture of sense 2: Expectant waiting.
expect v I. To wait; to defer action until some contingency arises. to expect of

whereas the American view of hope is defined in Merriam Webster:
hope verb hoped; hoping
Definition of hope (Entry 1 of 6) intransitive verb
1 : to cherish a desire with anticipation : to want something to happen or be true
//hopes for a promotion//hoping for the best//I hope so.
2 archaic : trust transitive verb
1 : to desire with expectation of obtainment or fulfillment
//I hope she remembers.//hopes to be invited
2 : to expect with confidence : trust
//Your mother is doing well, I hope.
hope against hope: to hope without any basis for expecting fulfillment

note that hope in American view isn't really what one would call expect or expectation. in the American use its almost a whishing more than an expectation and expectation being what the word meant in the bible KJV in the 1600's
in the creation text God speaks or "said" and surly He expected His Word to be fulfilled. he didn't hope in the modern sense of the word. God didn't cross His fingers and hoped, His Hope is expectation of His Word to be fulfilled. therefore what should a wise man's hope or better said expectations be?

also the Strong’s which is the standard for KJV studies is an American view language wise, and wasn't created until late 1800's so the American definition of British understanding is the norm in reading the KJV. instead of using the exhaustive OED.
For the record should you think I’m in error here see the word “saw” in the Strong’s:
H7200
רָאָה
râ'âh
raw-aw'
A primitive root; to see, literally or figuratively (in numerous applications, direct and implied, transitively, intransitively and causatively): - advise self, appear, approve, behold, X certainly, consider, discern, (make to) enjoy, have experience, gaze, take heed, X indeed, X joyfully, lo, look (on, one another, one on another, one upon another, out, up, upon), mark, meet, X be near, perceive, present, provide, regard, (have) respect, (fore-, cause to, let) see (-r, -m, one another), shew (self), X sight of others, (e-) spy, stare, X surely, X think, view, visions.
In the OED:
saw n1:
1. a. A cutting tool consisting of a plate (or, in some forms, a band or a tube) of metal (usually steel), one edge of which is formed into a continuous series of teeth. (Some saws for cutting stone are without teeth.) In the original form of the tool, represented by the hand-saw, and in some varieties of more modern invention, e.g. the pit-saw (see pit n.1 15), the saw is moved backwards and forwards, each movement in one direction deepening the groove or ‘kerf’ made in the wood or other material to be cut. In other varieties, as the circular saw and the band-saw, a continuous movement in one direction is substituted for the reciprocating movement.

b. In obsolete phrases. to draw the saw (of contention or controversy): to keep up a fruitless dispute. to be under the saw of contention: (of a question) to be the subject of profitless dispute. to hand the saw: to take turns, change parts, with another in some work or function. to hold (a person) at the long saw: to keep in suspense.
c. A flexible saw used as a musical instrument, played with a bow.

2. Zool. A part or organ with teeth like those of a saw. Also Comb. saw-bearing adj.

3. [Properly a distinct word, f. saw v.] a. A sawing movement. (In Dicts.). b. Whist. = see-saw n. 1c.

4. Short for sawfish. rare.

5. attrib. and Comb. a. simple attrib., as saw-blade, -carriage, machine, -mandrel, -mark; b. objective, as saw-filer, -filing, -grinder, -maker, -piercer, -setter, -setting; c. similative, as saw-backed, -beaked, -leaved, -like, -shaped, -toothed, -topped adjs.
saw n2:
1. A saying; discourse; speech. Obs.
2. A story, tale, recital. Obs.
3. A decree, command. Obs.
4. A sententious saying; a traditional maxim, a proverb. For (old) said saw see said ppl. a.
saw v1:
1. a. trans. To cut with a saw. Also with advs., asunder, away, off, through; and const. into.

b. To cut as a saw does. Also absol. or intr.

c. To form by cutting with a saw.

d. absol. To use a saw; to cut with a saw.

e. intr. with passive force. To admit of being sawn.

2. transf. With reference to the movement used in sawing. a. trans. Phr. to saw the air: to gesticulate with the hands as if sawing something invisible. Also to saw one's hand.

b. To work (the bit) from side to side in a horse's mouth. Also with the mouth as obj.

c. intr. Said of one playing a stringed instrument with a bow.

d. trans. Phr. to saw wood, to attend to one's own affairs; to continue working steadily. U.S. colloq.

e. Phr. to saw a chunk (length, piece) off, to copulate. slang.

saw v2: To speak in saws.
no mention related to seeing anything or had seen or witnessed.

But the purpose of this OP is to raise the question. What is one’s expectations as compared to what is the correct expectations or hope (in the KJV sense)? And if one’s expectations are correct then should one experience disappointment? And is expectation a perceived entitlement, or an actual entitlement? ]]>
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Has the New Covenant started or is it still in the future? https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276395-Has-the-New-Covenant-started-or-is-it-still-in-the-future?goto=newpost Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:39:04 GMT This was an ongoing discussion but was unfortunately deleted during the recent glitch, hence my quest to reignite the discourse. Jeremiah 31:31-35 had prophesied that a new covenant will replace the old and this was fulfilled by Jesus death on the... This was an ongoing discussion but was unfortunately deleted during the recent glitch, hence my quest to reignite the discourse. Jeremiah 31:31-35 had prophesied that a new covenant will replace the old and this was fulfilled by Jesus death on the cross (Heb 10:20). Further support can also be found in numerous passages in Hebrews.

Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

There are, however, those who hold contrary views; these handfuls argue that the new covenant will come into effect when Jesus returns.

What's your thought on the subject? ]]>
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The Triumphant Faith https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276394-The-Triumphant-Faith?goto=newpost Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:49:46 GMT “*For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?*”—1John 5:4-5 The above opening text... For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”—1John 5:4-5

The above opening text tells us that whatsoever is born of God overcomes the world. And that we gain this consistent conquest or triumph over the world, through our faith. Then added to the opening scripture, 2 Corinthians 2:14 says “Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place”

So scripturally, every believer in Christ Jesus is ordained for consistent conquest over the perverse elements of this world. Such as: sin, devilish attack and manipulations, sickness and diseases, lack and want, e.t.c. And from my personal experience and observation over the years as a Christian—Practicing faith in Christ Jesus—this is the practical experience of some believers. Triumphing over the elements of this world exactly as the scripture says…

Because the scriptures cannot be broken. Yes, this group of triumphant Christians, do go through some seasonal tribulations of life, but they always come out of them victorious to the glory of God. While on the other hand, over the years, of my Christianity I have also seen (and still see) so many Christians with shipwrecked faith…

So many believers who are dominated and defeated often by the same perverse elements of the world, the word of God says we have victory over. Try as they may, sin and devils still have the upper hand over their lives. They are not any different from the unbelievers. And to make a bad situation worse, most of them have embraced their defeat and failure as the Christian ideal…

And consequently, they have made frantic and scholarly effort to bend scriptures to align with their failures, instead of pressing on till they conform to exactly what the undiluted word of God says. The word of God says we shall have dominion over sin. They say nay, no one can have dominion over sin.
The word of God says we can heal the sick and raise the dead in the name of Jesus. They say nay, the era of miracles have ceased. Then some others say healing in the scripture refers to healing for sin, not for physical health. The scriptures says God desires prosperity for his children, they say nay, poverty is the portion of the present Church.

They make all these assertions in spite of the glaring scriptural truths. When you show them these scriptures, they force them to say what their experiences have been, instead of accepting them for exactly what they say.

But this is not supposed to be the right spiritual attitude. When our practical experiences do not conform to scriptural truth, we ought to study and pray more to understand the reason behind the discrepancies in other to get the exact scriptural result…

So in line with this wisdom, we want to study scripturally the secrets behind the triumphant faith in Christ Jesus. So our practical Christian experiences can conform to exactly what the word of God says.

The Secrets of a Triumphant Faith

Outlined below are the biblical secrets for the triumphant faith in Christ Jesus.


  1. Jesus Based Faith: “Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God”
    From the above scripture, we see clearly that the triumphant faith is Jesus based. For anyone’s faith to be triumphant, he must first believe in Jesus as the Son of God. That is, he must accept Jesus as his Lord and only personal saviour. And he must not combine Jesus with any other alternative God. His faith in Christ Jesus must be absolute.
  2. Patient and Persistent Faith: The triumphant faith is the faith that is patient and persistent with God (Hebrews 10:35-36). This aspect of triumphant faith is exactly what Jesus teaches us in his parable of the wicked judge and the widow (Luke 18:1-8). In that parable, the widow went to the wicked judge for justice, but the judge was adamant, but her persistent pressure on the judge made the judge to intervene in her matter.

    In the same way, if we believe God for anything, we must be patient and persistent instead of drawing hasty conclusion after a few efforts. We must press until we get an answer. We must not accept silence as an answer. The word of God says you shall lay hand on the sick and they shall recover. If you lay your hands on a hundred people without a result, believe that there will be a result in the 101th person.
  3. Love Based Faith : “For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything , nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by Love”—Galatians 5:6
    The triumphant faith is a faith that is built on a heart with God’s Love. The above scripture says faith works by Love. And Jesus defines Love for him to mean obedience to his commandments. So the faith of the obedient child of God, is a triumphant one. But faith without Love of God, is useless and dead faith (James 2:20).
  4. Word Based Faith: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God”—Romans 10:17
    The triumphant faith is a faith that is built on the revealed word of God. The reason for so many shipwreck faith is that they are built on assumptions. They are built on popular opinion or scholarship. They are built on ‘hear says’. They are built on experiences, instead of the undiluted and untainted truth of God’s word. For instance, there is a popular belief that says “Heaven help those who help themselves”. But there is absolutely no scriptural backing for such belief. So if your faith must be triumphant, it must be based absolutely on God’s revealed word in scriptures.
  5. Purity Based Faith: “Holding faith, and a good conscience ; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck”—1Timothy 1:19
    The triumphant faith, is faith built on good and clear conscience. A good conscience is a conscience that is exercised not to have any offence towards God or man. A good conscience is a repentant heart. According to the scripture above, the Apostle Paul says faith, that is void of a good conscience, gets shipwreck or stranded or frustrated. So if your faith must always be triumphant according to scriptures, like the Apostle Paul, you must always exercise yourself to have a conscience, void of offence towards God and men (Acts 24:16).
  6. Prayer And Fasting Powered Faith: “Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting”—Matthew 17:21.
    In the Chapter above, a lunatic, possessed by a devil, was brought to Jesus’ disciples for healing and deliverance. But they couldn’t cure him. But when Jesus came he rebuked the devil and cured the child from that very hour. So after that, the disciples asked the Lord why they could not cast out the devil. And Jesus said it was because of their unbelief. In other words, it was their lack of faith. But then he also added “Howbeit, this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting”.

    So Jesus recommends faith enhanced with the power of prayer and fasting for overcoming such kind of devils. Today we still have such kind of devils that won’t go except through fasting and prayers. And we don’t have to wait until we encounter them before we pray and fast. To ensure our faith triumphs over every kind of devil every time, we must make praying and fasting a consistent part of our Christians lives.


So there you have it; the secrets of a triumphant faith.

Remained Blessed!

Emeke Odili ]]>
Bible Chat emekrus https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276394-The-Triumphant-Faith
What is PASSOVER all about? EX 10:1-13:16 https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276386-What-is-PASSOVER-all-about-EX-10-1-13-16?goto=newpost Sun, 13 Jan 2019 06:03:44 GMT PARASHA: “BO” (enter) EXODUS 10:1-13:16.........JEREMIAH 46:13-28.........MATT 25:1-46 The plagues against the Egyptian gods continue, it is our “Creator God YHVH” against Pharaoh and his false deities. Guess who is winning, yes, you... PARASHA: “BO” (enter)



EXODUS 10:1-13:16.........JEREMIAH 46:13-28.........MATT 25:1-46


The plagues against the Egyptian gods continue, it is our “Creator God YHVH” against Pharaoh and his false deities. Guess who is winning, yes, you know it. However, I need to point out that many of us peg Pharaoh and the Egyptians as the “bad guys” and the Israelites as the “good guys”.
But we need to take note of something that many believers have in common with Pharaoh, After the plague of locusts, Pharaoh said;
“I have sinned against the LORD your God, (notice that he said “YOUR” ) and against you, Now therefore forgive I pray thee my sin only this once and entreat the LORD your God that he may take away this death only”(Ex 10:17) and even before that, Pharaoh spoke saying;
“I have sinned this time, the LORD is righteous, and I and my people are wicked, entreat the LORD that there be no more mighty thunderings and hail, and I will let you go, and ye shall stay no longer (EX 9:27,28)
Pharaoh seems to be repentant yet it is just “lip service” in Spanish it would be “de diente a labio” or from “tooth to lip” he continues to rebel against YHVH, and refuses to let Israel go. How many believers claim to love God and admit that they are sinners and wicked, and we all are because of our “Yetzer Hara” (evil inclination) or in simple words, “sin nature” yet we ignore the Torah, we disobey HIS commandments…or…we promise that we will obey, yet we go back on our promise. I think this is true for ALL of us from time to time, for some more often than others.
Even the Israelites, once they got out of Egypt, began to complain, and gripe, grumble and groan, and break G-d’s commandment making an idol calf of gold. Are we any better? Do we not grumble and complain too? For this and for that? We break YHVH’s commandments, and we say, “sorry” and seem repentant, but continue in the same sins, I think we are like Pharaoh as much as like the Israelites.
Sometimes, we want to compromise, not follow ALL of Adonai’s instructions, perhaps not follow the whole Torah. Adonai’s instructions to Moshe, as he revealed to Pharaoh, were to leave Egypt, the whole people, with all their properties (herds and flocks), go to the wilderness and sacrifice to the LORD, yet Pharaoh said he would comply…but…not all the way;
“go sacrifice to your God in the land” (just stay in Egypt) “go to the wilderness, but not so far away”
(yes, so we can keep an eye on you that you don’t run away!) “Go serve the LORD, the men only” (yet Adonai wants “all the people”) “to serve the LORD, but your herds and flocks stay here” (so, how are they going to sacrifice without the flocks and the herds?)
Do we follow wholeheartedly? Or do we pick and choose? Do we follow the Torah only when convenient? Or parts that won’t interrupt our lifestyles? Do we follow some commandments and not follow others saying “these aren’t for us, only for Israel” if we are picking and choosing, then we are like Pharaoh, trying to “bargain” or make “Compromise” with the LORD through his chosen servant?
I would like to add this detail also. It is about “HaMateh” (The Staff) this is the staff or the rod of Moshe and Aaron, the one that was used to bring about the plagues. It is very interesting and how it relates to the power of Elohim through Moshe. The word “Mateh” in Hebrew has two meanings. One is “Rod” or “Staff” and it represents the power and authority of the holder of the same. It also means “Tribe” and in the plural; “Matot” (Tribes).
When Moshe was still before YHVH at Har Sinai, He told Moshe to use the “Mateh” to show the people HIS power. The power of Elohim-YHVH through Moshe. Moshe would be as “Elohim” before Pharaoh. The rod would be the symbol of authority, as it also represents the “Tribe” of “Kol Israel” of “All Israel” united as One Tribe. “Mateh Echad”.
If we look at the staff of Moshe through spiritual eyes, just imagine the name YHVH carved into this staff or rod of judgment. We look at the value of the letters Y H V H. The first two letters “Yod and Hey” 10 and 5. Those two letters form the shorter form of the name of God; “YaH”. The letter “Yod” = 10. It can symbolize the “10” plagues that were to befall Egypt, by the “Arm” (Yod) of Elohim. The hand is part of the arm, remember that.
Then we see the letter “Hey” that has the value of “5”. We can sum up the promises of YHVH as the following; 1) Elohim will deliver Israel out from under the burden of Egyptian Slavery; 2) Israel will be REDEEMED by the ARM of Elohim-YHVH; 3) Elohim-YHVH will Israel as HIS people and will be their GOD; 4) Israel will be brought into the chosen land of promise; 5) The promised land will be an INHERITANCE.
After the 10 plagues, the 5 basic promises were fulfilled. The redemption was fulfilled when the lambs and goats were slaughtered and sacrificed in the Israelite homes during the Eve of Pesach. So that gives us Y and H in the infallible name of God.
But we still have Vav (V) and Hey (H). We know that the “Hey” covers the promises, but the “Vav” is the key letter that points us to Calvary’s Cross! The “Vav” is the nail, that was driven into the hands of Mashiach, this would “really” fulfill the promise of redemption. The redemption was symbolized by the animal sacrifices until Yeshua came and fulfilled it in “Full”. The “Vav” has the value of “6” which is the number of “Man”. So, Elohim became a man to receive the nail in his hands to make full the promise of redemption, which was part of the promises. The first story of Israel’s redemption by blood is in chapter 12. This can be the most important chapter of Shemot because it is “Pesach Time”
” This month shall be your beginning of months for you, it shall be the first month of the year for you”
This can't be any clearer in my observation, it isn't January 1st, it is the first of Nissan, and since the lunar calendar changes from year to year, our “New Year's Day” (the real one) comes on March 27th (New Year's Eve).
” On the tenth of this month, everyone shall take a lamb.... a lamb for each household” ......
This lamb was to be a young, healthy lamb, and it would be kept for 5 days, on the 14th day, it would be slaughtered, and as we know, the blood would be placed on the two side posts of the door of the house entrance and along the top frame. As the story goes on, the death angel would come and see the blood and thus “pass-over” that house that had the blood on the doorposts.
If you imagine that, the blood on the doorposts...forms sort of a “cross” you can imagine Yeshua with his arms and hands extended, each one touch one of the “doorposts” and his head against the “top part” where the blood from his head would be (where the Roman soldiers pushed in the crown of thorns) and where the nails were hammered (in the wrists) between the two small bones that form the arm (remember that not one bone was broken), so it had to between the bones, through the muscle.
The lamb or goat was to be eaten roasted, with bitter herbs and unleavened bread. The other elements were added later and were present when Yeshua celebrated the Pesach Supper with his talmidim. The roasted lamb or goat symbolizes “Yeshua being “roasted” in the “fires of judgment for our sins. He took upon himself ALL of our sins, past, present, and future. They were all “nailed” to the cross and judged by the Father. The “bitter herbs” symbolize the bitterness of slavery, slavery to sin, and having a master “HaSatan” as our taskmaster. The unleavened bread symbolizes “Yeshua The Bread of Life” bread without leaven can be considered “perfect, sinless bread, therefore calling Yeshua who is without sin, “The Bread of Life”, and when we eat the “bread without leaven” (Matzah) we are symbolizing “taking into us Yeshua” and when we eat only unleavened bread for 7 days afterward, we are being conscious of “sin in our lives” (avoiding it) being reminded by the matzah.
At the first Passover, the wine wasn't mentioned nor does it mention “Charoseth” (a sweet mixture of nuts, apples, honey, cinnamon, etc.). They may have had wine, or water, or another drink, but no one knows for sure, nor do we know what kind of “bitter herbs” were used, today we use horseradish. Back then, it had to be something common in Egypt.
The death angel visited the houses where no blood was found, so probably all the houses of the Egyptians lacked the blood, but perhaps there were a few houses that had members that paid attention to Moshe, and they might have gone to the Israelites and put blood on their doors.
We are talking about a “substitution sacrifice” the “lambs and goats” were substituted for the Israelites' first-born. And any Egyptian household that also placed the blood on their doors (those who believed). We can see in scripture where a “substitute” was used. When Abraham was asked to sacrifice Isaac, God provided a “ram” as a substitute for Isaac, On Yom Kippur, two goats are used as “substitutes” for all of the people of Israel, and finally, “Yeshua Ha Mashiach” (Jesus the Messiah/Christ) was “OUR” substitute on the cross, HE exchanged his “Righteousness for our sinfulness” instead of us being punished for our sins, Yeshua accepted the punishment in our place. All that remains for us is to accept his “one time only” sacrifice and receive and accept HIM as our LORD and SAVIOR, and thus being “born again” according to John 3:3. Have you done this? If you were to die today, are you sure that Yeshua is your LORD and Savior? Will, HE let you into his Kingdom? Only you can answer that question.


ANCIENT EGYPTIAN WORDS/VOCABULARY (just for the fun of knowing them)


“Aw Ibek” = May your heart rejoice, “Em Hotep” = shalom, peace, “Kemet” = Egypt
“Qed” = architect (masculine) “Qedet” = architect (feminine) “baket” = female servant
“Em heset net Ra” = be in favor with (the god) Ra, “Em heset net Yah” = be in favor with Yah (YHVH)
“Retehtey” = baker “Retehtet” = baker (female) , “Neter” = god “Sen” = brother, “Sat” = sister
“Dua netjer en ek” = thank you.


Moshe spoke all of these fluently. Try some of them on your neighbor, “Em Hotep” (good bumper sticker?) ya never know what will fly these days. (kinda like the pet rock?)




JER 46:13-28


600 years later, after the fall of Egypt at Passover, disaster strikes against, this time, YHVH uses Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon as an instrument of destruction against Egypt, seems like Egypt was not humbled after the Passover experience. You would think that the pharaohs that rose to power after the time of Passover would have realized the author of Egypt's destruction, but seems like they did not, a hard heart is hard to break at times.
There are people today that have hardened hearts, that still resist the will of YHVH, to become sons of God, servants of Yeshua, talmidim, at times, God will humble us through accidents, illnesses, etc.. don't wait for that to happen, HUMBLE THYSELF IN THE SIGHT OF THE LORD! He loves you and wants you as his own!




MATT 25:1-46


”The Ten Talents” A “talent” was a “weight” of money thousands of years ago. It was a lot, one could have a “talent” of gold, or silver, or copper, brass, bronze, etc. And like money today, it could be invested, or wisely spent,
We also use the word “talent” as something that we have, like an “ability” to do good. As believers, we all have “talents” or “abilities” given to us through the Ruach HaKodesh (The Holy Spirit), with which to serve our LORD and Savior on earth. But, like the evil servant in the parable, who did nothing with his talent, only buried it, there are believers today who are doing the same. Many have more than one talent, or “spiritual gift” and they are not using it (or them). They are going to waste, or are squandering them in “things of the world.
Can you sing? Yes, are you singing for God? Can you write? Are you writing for God? Can you teach? Are you teaching God's word to others? Can you play an instrument? Are you playing for the LORD? Think about the talents you have. How are you using them? ]]>
Bible Chat Yakov https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276386-What-is-PASSOVER-all-about-EX-10-1-13-16
who are the Chinese? https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276377-who-are-the-Chinese?goto=newpost Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:22:30 GMT most scholars agree that Magog is Russia as in Russians in general are descendants of Magog Gen_10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. but who are the Chinese/Mongolians from?... most scholars agree that Magog is Russia as in Russians in general are descendants of Magog

Gen_10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.


but who are the Chinese/Mongolians from? and why aren't they mentioned in prophetic scripture or at the least paid any attention to if they are? in todays world being most likely the end they have become a major player and power.

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Bible Chat DPMartin https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276377-who-are-the-Chinese
Who or what is or will be the Great H https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276372-Who-or-what-is-or-will-be-the-Great-H?goto=newpost Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:40:04 GMT I’ve started this thread to discuss the identity of the great harlot. Or Babylon the great as described in the book of Revelation.

Particularly for those who believe the RCC or Rome is the harlot spoken of in Rev 17 & 18. Here is your chance to explain “scripturally why you hold that position. Warning we are stressing scripturally.

Anyone else who wishes to submit their position is more than welcome to do so.

I am urging everyone to stay on topic. Don’t derail the thread. And let’s discuss this with open minds to seriously consider the plausibility of each other’s views.

As a mod I will be watching closely for derailments and attitudes needing adjustments. I want to remind everyone to be courteous and respectful to each other since no one has all the answers. But mine do happen to be closer to the truth than anyone else.

With that said …. Into the fray!

I’ve watched many of these threads discussing the ID of the Great Harlot and the many different opinions of which country, city or religion (Rome , Jerusalem, RCC, Islam, etc.) is being depicted by that Great Harlot.

By the way opinion means: a belief, judgment, or way of thinking about something: what someone thinks about a particular thing. As opposed to truth meaning: the real facts about something: the things that are true: the quality or state of being true: a statement or idea that is true. “Opinion” does not equal “truth”.

I’m no different and I have my “opinion” (defined as mentioned above) just like everyone else. I have been considering joining in these discussions but have decided for the most it would be better to simply watch and see what others have to say before I put my own plug nickel into the pot and show my hand if motivated to do so.

The main problem I see in most of the opinions presented is although all of them may fit some verses or criteria describing the harlot in Revelation 17 and 18 none of them in my opinion fit all of them. The truth is whoever or whatever the harlot is supposed to represent must meet or fulfill all of them . And so far, no theory has accounted for “ALL” the descriptions she must scripturally meet.

So with that, let me throw out an additional possibility for y’all to consider. I will muddy the waters and a bit more if you will allow me to do so. I’m just putting this out for you to consider … nothing more.

When I began looking into this topic years ago. I started by doing a little research regarding the definition of harlotry. For the most part we (human) define it as forms of sexual activities outside of God’s boundaries of such. But I wanted to see how God defined it and in what contexts or situations He applied the term to.

After looking into it I’ve come to the conclusion the Great Harlot is mankind. ]]>
Bible Chat Old man https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276372-Who-or-what-is-or-will-be-the-Great-H
Starting over? https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276364-Starting-over?goto=newpost Tue, 08 Jan 2019 22:25:09 GMT *Well this is interesting...has it happened before? So do you just start over or start fresh?* *I was really wanting to see who others thought the Great H was. Now I am not sure what to do so thought I would see if you could at least... Well this is interesting...has it happened before? So do you just start over or start fresh?




I was really wanting to see who others thought the Great H was. Now I am not sure what to do so thought I would see if you could at least post something. ]]>
Bible Chat kyCyd https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/276364-Starting-over