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BibleForums Christian Message Board - Growing in Christ https://bibleforums.org/ 1 Thessalonians 5:9-11 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing. en Tue, 23 Jul 2019 05:42:03 GMT vBulletin 60 https://bibleforums.org/images/misc/rss.png BibleForums Christian Message Board - Growing in Christ https://bibleforums.org/ Please Help Observable Evidence https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/289454-Observable-Evidence?goto=newpost Sun, 21 Jul 2019 17:29:18 GMT Howdy folks.

For a very long time now I have been church-less, but at the same time would have packed up and moved anywhere on the planet (literally) to find a church that offered biblical messages to it's congregation on what the life-cost of discipleship is, and even more importantly to me is a church which offers brave and honest biblical messages on what discipleship actually looks like when practiced.

Anyway, two years ago I finally found a local church, well kind of local, it is a little over 25 miles away from my residence.

A local church where christian's gather together and at least hear brave and honest truth(s) that were taught by Jesus Himself.
....It is a nondenominational church that split from southern baptist about a decade ago, which is another quality in fellowship that I desire: nondenominational.
It is a church set-up in a way that I can only describe as a hub system of churches 'the father church' and 'sister churches' that were planted over the past two years by the father church.
....All of these churches are within 40 miles of one another and, all are under the pastor-ship of one head pastor at the "father church" who also guides and councils the junior pastors at it's two sister churches.
....I see that as remarkably similar to the governing structure of historical churches set up by Paul the apostle.
And to add even more biblical church-ness to this; we also divide up into small groups by-weekly for bible studies with shared meals in private homes.

The messages delivered here at my local church immediately began deeply convicting me of previously unrecognized sin(s) and brought repentance from my ugly heart and spirit, weekly. The small group bible studies also help keep me on the narrow path.
Also, those messages that I hear at church are mysteriously timely and on target to what was or is still currently going on in my life's day to day personal struggles toward becoming more Christlike. IE: loving folks the way Jesus loved and treated them, instead of how I wanted to love and treat them.
Yay for me right ? :pp

Well, I thought so too ...for awhile.
Maybe I am trying to pick out splinters from folks eyes even before removing the logs still jammed in my own eyes.
Because, after assuming for two years that Jesus finally led me to a place where I could grow into a strong tree and burn my candle on a huge fortified hilltop.
....Sadly, all of that biblical church-goodness that I was craving for years and thought that I had finally found, well it was just a silver lining, so to speak.
Imagine my disappointment after years and years of searching for a place where earnest believers gathered and practiced what Jesus literally taught.
Meaning, once I got semi-settled in at this new church, I began to notice a lack of love and fellowship.
But, I did not recognize these recent fast growing sprouts of snide, chide, shunning spirits until after I began to shed this crusty shell of carnal/fleshly-christianity that made up my old-man that I previously thought was saved/redeemed from sin.

It's like: yeah we will prove our love and fellowship toward you as long as you stay where you are and don't grow into anything resembling a reborn image of Christ.
No fellowship for you unless you stop growing and trying persistently to follow the One we call our Savior and redeemer.
I define 'true' fellowship as:
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
John 13:35
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

After reading my cry rant/here, does anyone have any advice as to if there is something that I am overlooking or have forgotten that maybe causing this recent but growing perception of mine ?
....Look, I love/crave rebuke and correction, it edifies and encourages me !
Meaning; any reflections or insight offered pointing to what maybe is still in me that causes this recent but ever strengthening perception of mine, well that insight would be a blessing and more so an answer to prayer more than anything.


Thanks for your time and consideration folks, God bless you more and more. ]]>
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Observation https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/289419-Observation?goto=newpost Wed, 10 Jul 2019 01:42:55 GMT
I firmly have come to believe that when we believe in Jesus we have the truth inside of us and we go by faith. I now realize that I am not to judge other people or condemn them, just like Jesus said. It's very simple, but people complicate it because they want to be selfish.

Anyone's life will completely be set right once they believe. This is fundamental. I firmly believe by people saying, "Oh, it's just a feeling, and feelings can be wrong" -- is, well, misleading, because there's more than just feelings inside a person. Feelings are part of the heart, and people believe with their hearts. If we keep on saying "It's just feelings", and not doing things, we might become pharisaical. The Pharisees are talked about a lot in the gospels because they are such a problem. Even today, but people need to be able to see it. If you're not careful, it's easy to let organized religion become Pharisaical. I really think people need to stop just saying "It's a feeling" -- and then you might actually miss doing something kind or godly or loving -- because if you say "It's just a feeling", and because of that, you don't do a good thing, what is that? That's bad! Jesus said the Pharisees hindered other people from entering heaven. They appeared to be doing right, but their hearts were wicked. This doctrine of saying "It's just a feeling" may very well be a hindrance to people seeking to enter heaven. When we believe in Jesus we get life, we get hope, we get faith, we get love, we both feel good and are good. Some say that "You might feel unclean but not actually be unclean." But the truth is, if you feel unclean, it's because there is uncleanness in you. When you believe, you are cleansed. The rest will follow as you grow in faith. This is why faith is so fundamental -- because it's the starting point of becoming a Christian.

Thanks for reading.

Josh
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Prayer Vs Politics https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/289235-Prayer-Vs-Politics?goto=newpost Fri, 05 Jul 2019 23:49:00 GMT This is such a good article. Very true, gentle and unbiased. A call back to what we are supposed to do and be. I've really been far more prayerful in the last few years for my own life and those in it and I'm seeing how beneficial it is for us. The more time we spend in His presence the more like Him we become. And I don't mean seeking him just for what we want or need...which is ok...but seeking Him to know what He wants. I have noticed a huge shift in the way I genuinely feel delighted in others around me and how easily and readily they respond with trust and love because they are seeing genuine love.

Can we please stop with all the ugly and start to genuinely seek the Lord's will in all things now?...yes ALL things. Start eating humble pie more often. It's very good for us as followers of Christ. And truly, how many times did you see Jesus involved in the kind of political savagery we often find ourselves mixed up in? He never lead a March demanding Laws change. He worked in people's hearts and is still doing so today. And how can He work in the hearts of people who have steal walls around their hearts that have been built by the ones who are called to represent Christ? It's our anger and fear that's building walls. It's time to get back to large prayer meetings and lots of quiet private prayer time seeking to grow in the knowledge and the grace of our Lord.

Sorry I didn't mean to make such a long statement before sharing the article. But I couldn't stop...one thought lead to another. :lol:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...crisis/593353/ ]]>
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Need Advice: Short Wave Radio Message https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/288999-Short-Wave-Radio-Message?goto=newpost Mon, 01 Jul 2019 08:33:00 GMT Hello, I really didnít know where to place this. Iím mainly looking for suggestions. I have been thinking about getting a message about the Gospel in different languages and buying time on a short wave station to have it broadcasted in perhaps 30... Hello, I really didnít know where to place this. Iím mainly looking for suggestions. I have been thinking about getting a message about the Gospel in different languages and buying time on a short wave station to have it broadcasted in perhaps 30 minute segments.
I have seen wave files on the net but they are not for open public use.
I guess my vision is to have a message about Christ and the Gospel in different languages not only for short wave but public use.
Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated! ]]>
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