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BibleForums Christian Message Board - End Times Chat https://bibleforums.org/ Biblical Prophecy, End Time events in News, Middle East, Terrorism, wars and rumors of wars ... 1THESS 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. en Mon, 22 Jul 2019 01:09:02 GMT vBulletin 60 https://bibleforums.org/images/misc/rss.png BibleForums Christian Message Board - End Times Chat https://bibleforums.org/ 2nd Trumpet - Destruction of Babylon the Great https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/289435-2nd-Trumpet-Destruction-of-Babylon-the-Great?goto=newpost Wed, 17 Jul 2019 02:31:16 GMT Rev 8 8 And the second angel sounded, *and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea:* and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the... Rev 8
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

The great mountain burning with fire is the city Babylon being destroyed.

Rev 18

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

7 trumpets a parallel to the 7 angels in Rev 14 - 2nd angel

Rev 14
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. ]]>
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Discussion Types and shadows https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/289429-Types-and-shadows?goto=newpost Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:19:41 GMT There are always types and shadows of the end of the age. The timing for the judgment of Pharaah and his armies ("the beast" and his armies) is the same as the timing for the deliverance of God's people.









(a) The New Testament only speaks of "tribulation" (or affliction or distress) in reference to the unbelieving world twice:

“..since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you,”
(2 Thessalonians 1:6); and

“..tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man who has worked out evil; of the Jew first, and also of the Greek.”
(Romans 2:9).

All the other New Testament verses using the words distress, affliction, trouble, tribulation refer to the suffering brought upon the believers/saints due to their testimony to Jesus.

(b) In the New Testament, God’s judgement of the world is referred to as "wrath" (not "tribulation").

"Great Tribulation": a phrase used only three times

Great tribulation (in the Greek it's megas thlipsis) is a term used twice by Jesus, and once by the angel who told John who the multitude were who he saw in heaven (revelation 7:14)

Jesus used the phrase once during His "Olivet Discourse" (recorded in Matthew 24:21; Luke 21:23; and Mark 13:19); and once again in Revelation 2:22, as a warning to the church at Thyatira that if they did not repent, Jesus Himself would throw them into great tribulation. ]]>
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The Sea turns to Blood.... https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/289426-The-Sea-turns-to-Blood?goto=newpost Sun, 14 Jul 2019 05:22:00 GMT When we were in grade school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time, but now... When we were in grade school long ago, one of the teachers took us out to the ocean in his boat, and showed us a strange phenomenon, red tide. He told us this is what will happen when the sea turns to blood, I brushed it off at the time, but now when we have both coasts of Florida with red tide killing everything in the sea and the canals have filled with green gunk to a level I have never seen in all my years....I am wondering, what is happening..?

Revelation 16:3

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLV27fEPdHY Florida's toxic red tide is a perfect storm for the Gulf Coast. ]]>
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God reveals the end times https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/288993-God-reveals-the-end-times?goto=newpost Mon, 01 Jul 2019 04:36:54 GMT Isaiah 46:8-10 *Remember this and abandon hope, consider it well you rebels*: Remember all that happened long ago – for I am God and there is none other. *From the beginning I reveal the end, from ancient times what is yet to be*. I say: My purpose... Isaiah 46:8-10 Remember this and abandon hope, consider it well you rebels: Remember all that happened long ago – for I am God and there is none other. From the beginning I reveal the end, from ancient times what is yet to be. I say: My purpose stands, I shall accomplish all that I plan.

Isaiah 46:12-13 Listen to Me, you stubborn of heart, for whom victory is far off; I will bring My victory near and My deliverance will not be delayed. In Zion, I will grant deliverance for Israel, My glory.Isaiah 47:1-5 Come down and sit in the dust, you virgin daughter of Babylon. Never again will you be called beautiful, your shame will be exposed. I shall take vengeance and show clemency to none, says the Holy One of Israel, the Redeemer of His people. Daughter of the ungodly, go into darkness and sit in silence for never again will you be able to lord it over the nations.

Isaiah 47:11-15 Persist in your idol worship and all the sorceries that you have relied upon, maybe they will yet help you? But disaster will come to you, suddenly and unforeseen and you will be unable to conjure it away. So much for your wise people, those who foretell prosperity and safety, they will become as stubble when the fire burns them up. It will not be like a fire to get warm by, but a devastating flame that they cannot escape from. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

from ancient times, I reveal what is to be’, We can know God’s Plans from the prophets. Amos 3:7, Revelation 1:1, Isaiah 45:19 Also what happened to Israel in the past, symbolizes what will happen in the future. 1 Corinthians 10:11

In Zion, Israel will receive deliverance’, The Lord’s people, those who love Him and follow His laws, will live in the holy Land. Psalm 15:1-5, Isaiah 62:1-5 But first the Land must be cleared and cleansed, as the unrighteous cannot remain there. Ezekiel 20:46-48, Jer. 31:1-6

daughter of Babylon – lord over the nations’, In these end times, this may refer to the USA, the worlds richest and most powerful nation. Isaiah 18:1-7, Jeremiah 50:22-25, Jeremiah 51:6-10, Zechariah 2:6-7

I shall take vengeance and show clemency to none’, The whole world will be judged and those who refuse to acknowledge the Lord will be punished. Hebrews 10:26-27, Deuteronomy 32:39-42, 1 Peter 4:17

‘a sudden and unforeseen disaster of a devastating fire’, A coronal mass ejection of unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth, literally fulfilling all the many prophecies about it. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Jeremiah 4:23-26

Acts 13:41 Look you scoffers, I am doing a deed in your day, a deed that you will not believe when you are told of it. Habakkuk 1:5, 2 Peter 3:3-7 ]]>
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<![CDATA[Jackpot! Do all the 7's align in the end?]]> https://bibleforums.org/showthread.php/288815-Jackpot!-Do-all-the-7-s-align-in-the-end?goto=newpost Sat, 29 Jun 2019 23:28:32 GMT Something I have been working on, struggling with the many years is the sequence of the seals, trumpets, and vials. I am sure not the only one. We have heard the trumpets come out of the 7th seal and then the vials thereafter. Understandable to... Something I have been working on, struggling with the many years is the sequence of the seals, trumpets, and vials. I am sure not the only one. We have heard the trumpets come out of the 7th seal and then the vials thereafter. Understandable to hold that view as the 7th seal is opened then the trumpets sound and then the vial later are poured out in order. The thing that keeps me from totally embracing that view is that at each last event, 7th seal, 7th trumpet, and 7th vial appears to immediately usher in the second coming and not more time thereafter. Note they may not all have the same starting point but believe they all have the same ending point.

7th seal

The 7th seal starts with the effects from the 6th seal beforehand...….so the day would start in blackness, moon as blood, no stars, heaven departed, and every mountain and island moved. So in reality can there really be any length of time left for the trumpets and or vials? If we align this with Matt 24 will there really be trumpets and vials between verses 29 and 30? Is not the day which goes black the DOTL when he comes as a thief in the literal night?

Matt 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Joel 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

Amos 5:20
Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

And if the 7th seal start in darkness and brings the DOTL then how can the sun be smitten during the trumpets?


7th trumpet

Likewise with the 7th trumpet. I believe this is the last trump no other trumpets mentioned, so does not Christ return on the last trump, are we not changed on the last trump? With the sounding of the 7th trumpet, this ushers in the last woe which comes "quickly" a reference I do believe is the 2nd coming. For Christ says he comes quickly mentioned 6 other times in Revelation.

Rev 7:22
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book

And not only that it is the time of the dead to be judged.

Rev 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

So again with the 7th trump being the last when Christ returns, the third woe coming quickly, and the dead about to be judged sooner than later in addition to what is occurring at the 7th seal description above there appears no additional time for the vials to be poured out.

In addition an earthquake accompanies all three and two of the three hail. So are there three great earthquakes or really just one when the 7th seal is opened, the 7th trumpet sounds and the 7th vial is poured culminating the 2nd coming. ]]>
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