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    How did they know to follow the star? Is there scripture that says.

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    I have a thread about this very topic here: http://bibleforums.org/showthread.php?t=151742




    God bless and Merry Christmas!
    "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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    • #3
      Originally posted by catlover View Post
      How did they know to follow the star? Is there scripture that says.
      If you read once they left Herod (they didnt follow it} but the star went before them until it stopped over the place where the child was [ this is key] When they saw the star they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy (.By this it tells me that while they traveled they did not see it for some time).(read it} When they saw the star when they saw the star they rejoiced

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      • #4
        Originally posted by neverleaveunorfors View Post
        If you read once they left Herod (they didnt follow it} but the star went before them until it stopped over the place where the child was [ this is key] When they saw the star they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy (.By this it tells me that while they traveled they did not see it for some time).(read it} When they saw the star when they saw the star they rejoiced
        I'll say the same thing to you on here I told you on other thread where you said this...


        Yes they did follow the star...bible says so:

        Matthew 2
        Wise Men from the East
        1 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, 2 saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”


        Herod didn't know a thing about the star...because later he asks the wise men this:

        7 Then Herod, when he had secretly called the wise men, determined from them what time the star appeared

        the wise men came from the east...had traveled possibly 700 miles from what this website says...following the star and ended up in Judea.

        This is the part you were referring too:

        9 When they heard the king, they departed; and behold, the star which they had seen in the East went before them, till it came and stood over where the young Child was. 10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy.

        God bless
        "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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        • #5
          Originally posted by catlover View Post
          How did they know to follow the star? Is there scripture that says.
          I think this is a very good question. If I see a significant star, I don't just assume a Messiah is about to be born. So what made the wise-men connect a star to a decision to follow it to Israel to see a baby boy?

          When we dig a little, we find some satisfactory explanations to this question. First, we discover that there were rumors/prophecies of a Judean King floating around at this time. I have quotes from Tacitus and Seutonius if you're interested. Second, the wise-men probably had access to Jewish Scriptures that predicted the timing of the Messiah (like Daniel). Remember, the Jews spent much of the Old Testament in exile in the very lands that the wise-men likely came from. Thirdly, we have to allow for the possibility that the stars contained a message that these wise-men understood. I believe there is a Christian book entitled 'the gospel in the stars' that would explain this possibility. Fourth, it could have been revealed to them in a dream or a vision, though this is not mentioned.

          So I think those are some solid explanations. Hope it helped.
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