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    According to the following scriptures the law is made for all/everything that is contrary to Sound Doctrine:

    1 Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
    1 Tim 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
    1 Tim 1:11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

    What therefore is Sound Doctrine?

    Is the doctrine we have received and believe, Sound Doctrine?

    God bless you!

    Firstfruits

  • #2
    Enter the next "pastoral" letter.

    Titus 2

    1 But as for you, speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine.
    2 Older men are to be temperate, dignified, sensible, sound in faith, in love, in perseverance.
    3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips, nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good,
    4 that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
    5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be dishonored.
    6 Likewise urge the young men to be sensible;
    7 in all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds, with purity in doctrine, dignified,
    8 sound in speech which is beyond reproach, in order that the opponent may be put to shame, having nothing bad to say about us.
    9 Urge bondslaves to be subject to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,
    10 not pilfering, but showing all good faith that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in every respect.
    11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
    12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
    13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus;
    14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.
    15 ¶These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

    Titus 3

    1 Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,
    2 to malign no one, to be uncontentious, gentle, showing every consideration for all men.
    3 For we also once were foolish ourselves, disobedient, deceived, enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, spending our life in malice and envy, hateful, hating one another.
    4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared,
    5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
    6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
    7 that being justified by His grace we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
    8 This is a trustworthy statement; and concerning these things I want you to speak confidently, so that those who have believed God may be careful to engage in good deeds. These things are good and profitable for men.
    9 But shun foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law; for they are unprofitable and worthless.
    10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
    11 knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.
    12 ¶When I send Artemas or Tychicus to you, make every effort to come to me at Nicopolis, for I have decided to spend the winter there.
    13 Diligently help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way so that nothing is lacking for them.
    14 And let our people also learn to engage in good deeds to meet pressing needs, that they may not be unfruitful.
    15 ¶All who are with me greet you. Greet those who love us in the faith. ¶Grace be with you all.


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    A.W. Tozer said,
    "To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience.”

    GO.... SERVE YOUR KING!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ProjectPeter View Post
      Enter the next "pastoral" letter.

      Titus 2

      1 But as for you, speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine.
      2 Older men are to be temperate, dignified, sensible, sound in faith, in love, in perseverance.
      3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips, nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good,
      4 that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
      5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be dishonored.
      6 Likewise urge the young men to be sensible;
      7 in all things show yourself to be an example of good deeds, with purity in doctrine, dignified,
      8 sound in speech which is beyond reproach, in order that the opponent may be put to shame, having nothing bad to say about us.
      9 Urge bondslaves to be subject to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,
      10 not pilfering, but showing all good faith that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in every respect.
      11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
      12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
      13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus;
      14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.
      15 ¶These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

      Titus 3

      1 Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,
      2 to malign no one, to be uncontentious, gentle, showing every consideration for all men.
      3 For we also once were foolish ourselves, disobedient, deceived, enslaved to various lusts and pleasures, spending our life in malice and envy, hateful, hating one another.
      4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared,
      5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
      6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
      7 that being justified by His grace we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
      8 This is a trustworthy statement; and concerning these things I want you to speak confidently, so that those who have believed God may be careful to engage in good deeds. These things are good and profitable for men.
      9 But shun foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law; for they are unprofitable and worthless.
      10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning,
      11 knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.
      12 ¶When I send Artemas or Tychicus to you, make every effort to come to me at Nicopolis, for I have decided to spend the winter there.
      13 Diligently help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way so that nothing is lacking for them.
      14 And let our people also learn to engage in good deeds to meet pressing needs, that they may not be unfruitful.
      15 ¶All who are with me greet you. Greet those who love us in the faith. ¶Grace be with you all.
      Thanks ProjectPeter,

      We should not go wrong there, if we apply or adhere to Sound Doctine.

      God bless you!

      Firstfruits

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      • #4
        Yeah... it is pretty simple really.


        Visit our new website
        ! The Blog might interest some.. and Lord help me!!!... for those that twitter... there as well.

        A.W. Tozer said,
        "To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience.”

        GO.... SERVE YOUR KING!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ProjectPeter View Post
          Yeah... it is pretty simple really.
          Yet not everyone will abide;

          1 Tim 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
          1 Tim 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, wHereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

          2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

          God bless you!

          Firstfruits

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          • #6
            Tis the reality of things... sadly.


            Visit our new website
            ! The Blog might interest some.. and Lord help me!!!... for those that twitter... there as well.

            A.W. Tozer said,
            "To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience.”

            GO.... SERVE YOUR KING!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ProjectPeter View Post
              Tis the reality of things... sadly.
              2 Tim 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

              Many seem to be unaware of the dangers of not abiding in Sound Doctrine.

              Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
              Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
              Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
              Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

              God bless!

              Firstfruits

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              • #8
                Why is the law not made for the righteous?

                How do we obtain the righteousness that exculdes us from the law that is made for the ungodly or unrighteous?

                1 Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

                Firstfruits

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                • #9
                  If we are saved, can we fail to acknowledge that we are righteous?

                  Firstfruits

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
                    If we are saved, can we fail to acknowledge that we are righteous?

                    Firstfruits
                    Anyone who states they are born again yet say they sin have failed to acknowledge they are made righteous.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Yukerboy View Post
                      Anyone who states they are born again yet say they sin have failed to acknowledge they are made righteous.
                      What does it mean to be born again in order to be made righteous?

                      Firstfruits

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
                        What does it mean to be born again in order to be made righteous?

                        Firstfruits
                        Not in order to, but a characteristic of...

                        Those who are born again are made righteous. We don't become born again to become righteous, but we are made righteous because we are born again.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Yukerboy View Post
                          Not in order to, but a characteristic of...

                          Those who are born again are made righteous. We don't become born again to become righteous, but we are made righteous because we are born again.
                          But all that is by faith in Christ, so if two come to Christ and one does not endure to the end was the one that did not endure always contrary to the Doctrine of Christ?

                          Firstfruits

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
                            But all that is by faith in Christ, so if two come to Christ and one does not endure to the end was the one that did not endure always contrary to the Doctrine of Christ?

                            Firstfruits
                            Define the Doctrine of Christ.

                            The one that does not endure to the end was not born again. He is the seed on the rocky soil.

                            God makes the born again stand firm to the end (1 Corinthians 1:21)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Yukerboy View Post
                              Define the Doctrine of Christ.

                              The one that does not endure to the end was not born again. He is the seed on the rocky soil.

                              God makes the born again stand firm to the end (1 Corinthians 1:21)
                              That which Christ and his Disciples have given us according to the Gospel.

                              What does it matter if you do not endure to the end if those that are born again cannot sin?

                              Did the one that did not endure, not begin their journey with God, and be known of God?

                              Firstfruits

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