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  • Will Jesus always be a man for eternity?

    The Bible says He will come as He left. So when Jesus returns will He still be in a human form? and after we are in heaven will He remain in human form forever? Even though He has a glorified body it would be amazing that God the Son would forever live in the form of a human if He did! how humble is that? Being God and humbling yourself in the likeness of man?

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    I agree that He has a glorified body.. and I also believe that the 'nail' prints in His hands and feet and the wounds from the Crown of Thorns.. along with the scar from the sword that Pierced His side.. will always be visible.. forever... for a REMINDER to those who Love Him and those He loves.. to Remind them of the Great Love He had .. by laying down His life... I for one want to see them.. I want to touch and see those scars.. and say LORD, Thank you for what you did....

    God did Humble Himself... and became a man.. God put on flesh.. Stepped out of Heaven and came down to Save His people... that's Humility... and we did not deserve it... Its His Great Salvation and its His Unmerited Grace and Mercy.. Amen and amen..

    Maranatha Lord Jesus.........
    Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
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    Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
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    The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
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    • #3
      Well, to be a faithful high priest and mediator between God and man, he would have to be a man... he ate food as a man but angels and the Father does not (see Psalm 50)...

      Jesus didn't choose to be a man only to cast it off... he will always be a man even for eternity and his body will still bear the scars... what humility! what love! I weep when I think of it...
      The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you,And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you,And give you peace. Numbers 6:24-26

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      • #4
        Originally posted by timmyb View Post
        Well, to be a faithful high priest and mediator between God and man, he would have to be a man... he ate food as a man but angels and the Father does not (see Psalm 50)...

        Jesus didn't choose to be a man only to cast it off... he will always be a man even for eternity and his body will still bear the scars... what humility! what love! I weep when I think of it...

        Amen.. so do I... The Humility... is mindboggling...and it brings to Light that its true... that its not that we loved God first.. but that He FIRST LOVED US...... His Crucifixtion was LOVE IN ACTION! amen and amen..
        Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
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        Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
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        The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
        Jeremiah 31:3

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        • #5
          Yes I agree, but shucks, to be a little more precise ...throughout eternity He will be fully God / fully man. And we will be fully amazed trying to figure that out throughout eternity. (just another example that the gospel isn't just 'milk').
          ♪ Each day may Christ become clearer, His Cross dearer, Our Hope nearer. ♫

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          • #6
            Jesus will always be the physical manifestation of God as it is the only way we can see Him. The Bible teaches us that we cannot look upon God the Father. And our eternal home will not be Heaven but the New Earth God is going to create. And Jesus will be the light for the new Earth. Read Rev. 21.
            In Him,
            Bob Allen

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            • #7
              This is a very interesting question and to be honest, I've never thought about it before. In my minds eye I picture Jesus in Heaven as a man, don't know what my idea of the Father is, the Holy Spirit is visualise as dove. But I really don't know what it will be like. Don't really know what Heaven will be like, parks and gardens, etc etc...that seems a bit simplistic to me...so I don't think it will be like that....I guess we'll all just have to wait and find out.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rocking horse View Post
                This is a very interesting question and to be honest, I've never thought about it before. In my minds eye I picture Jesus in Heaven as a man, don't know what my idea of the Father is, the Holy Spirit is visualise as dove. But I really don't know what it will be like. Don't really know what Heaven will be like, parks and gardens, etc etc...that seems a bit simplistic to me...so I don't think it will be like that....I guess we'll all just have to wait and find out.

                I believe that God the father will have the form of a man. I believe that his likeness is that he chooses to be in that form and created us in that image. I also believe that we are not able to look directly at God and see his face because his light is that brilliant and we can't handle it.

                I read pastor Jesse Duplantis' book on Heaven. He claims to have gone to heaven. What he describes makes a lot of sense to me. He said that the Father is seating on the throne and that Jesus walks in and out of the Father. It was a very interesting and uplifting read.
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                • #9
                  This guy reckons Jesus walks....in and out...of the Father...mmmm, that's interesting....well, I guess we'll find out when the time comes. And what about the Holy Spirit, is He just a flame of fire above their heads, or a dove that flies around Heaven all day !!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rocking horse View Post
                    This guy reckons Jesus walks....in and out...of the Father...mmmm, that's interesting....well, I guess we'll find out when the time comes. And what about the Holy Spirit, is He just a flame of fire above their heads, or a dove that flies around Heaven all day !!!
                    That was the most hilarious part of it. Jesse said he asked the angel where the Holy Spirit was and the angel said to him "he's on the earth!". Jesse said he felt really dumb right then
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by theBelovedDisciple View Post
                      I agree that He has a glorified body.. and I also believe that the 'nail' prints in His hands and feet and the wounds from the Crown of Thorns.. along with the scar from the sword that Pierced His side.. will always be visible.. forever... for a REMINDER to those who Love Him and those He loves.. to Remind them of the Great Love He had .. by laying down His life... I for one want to see them.. I want to touch and see those scars.. and say LORD, Thank you for what you did....

                      God did Humble Himself... and became a man.. God put on flesh.. Stepped out of Heaven and came down to Save His people... that's Humility... and we did not deserve it... Its His Great Salvation and its His Unmerited Grace and Mercy.. Amen and amen..

                      Maranatha Lord Jesus.........
                      BD,
                      What is your take on Paul's assertion that the resurrection body is a "spiritual" body? And what about Paul's statement that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"?

                      It seems to me that these statements infer that Jesus rose from the dead unglorified. I want to suggest to you that Christ's glorified body cannot have holes in it. He rose from the dead with the holes from the nails that pierced completely through His body. They were more than scars.

                      He therefore rose from the grave in the same broken body inwhich He was crucified. We know that it was broken and not merely scarred for He told Thomas to thrust his hand INTO His side. This strongly suggests that His body was still broken and not merely scarred. Holes don't close up and turn into scars in three days.

                      I think that Jesus' body was transformed when He went to heaven and the holes are gone. Paul said that our bodies will be transformed "like unto His glorious body". So the holes must be gone because there is nothing "glorious" about a body that has holes in it.

                      God bless,
                      thinker

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                      • #12
                        So the holes must be gone because there is nothing "glorious" about a body that has holes in it.
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                        Well I guess one would have to decide if there was anything glorious about a humble Carpenter hanging on a bloody tree ... beaten and bruised... supposedly a King... the Son of Man.. God in the flesh... even Jesus's disciples didn't understand fully about the Crucifixtion and that He was to arise 3 days later.. men's wisdom would tell u that is ridiculous.. its foolisheness.. there is no 'glory' in that... OR WAS THERE??? I'll let you decide..


                        What doesn't look 'glorious' to the human eye.. or the human understanding.. .... maybe God considers to be 'GLORIOUS'? If God didnt want His Son to be nailed to a tree and full of holes because it wouldnt be 'glorious' or look 'glorious'....... Do you think He would of did it another way?


                        Man's ways are not God's ways.. and man's understanding is not God' s understanding... thats because the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. Some people think the 'cross' is foolishness... others it is a 'stumblingblock"...... This is why the Jews rejected their Messiah the first time.. they didn't recognize Him because they had 'their' own ideas and theology of who and what He would be like... they had their own idea of what kind 'glory' their Redeemer would appear in..

                        When He comes the 2nd time in Power and Glory.. men will tremble in fear and they will try to hide in the hills... and also.. those 'who' pierced Him... will also look upon Him as He returns... How would you look upon someobody you have pierced if there is no outward 'evidence', on His Glorified body.... how would you 'know' that He was even pierced...

                        Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


                        I believe He will bear those scars.. even in His Glorified Body.. because what you and I would consider 'unglorious'... God would consider very Glorious...

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                        Take a look at these scriptures in Hebrews... those called in Faith... what where there characteristics?

                        And others had trial of [cruel] mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:

                        They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;

                        Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and [in] mountains, and [in] dens and caves of the earth.



                        The world and its wisdom and the wisdom of men would look down on these types of people.. calling them fools for their belief.. 'not glorious' at all.. but the Scritpure tells us the 'world was not worthy of them'... this giving us a somewhat understanding of what God considers to be 'glorious' and 'not very glorious'...

                        I appreciate the dialogue.... thanks
                        Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
                        ------------------------------------------------
                        Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
                        ------------------------------------------------
                        The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
                        Jeremiah 31:3

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by thethinker View Post
                          BD,
                          What is your take on Paul's assertion that the resurrection body is a "spiritual" body? And what about Paul's statement that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"?

                          It seems to me that these statements infer that Jesus rose from the dead unglorified. I want to suggest to you that Christ's glorified body cannot have holes in it. He rose from the dead with the holes from the nails that pierced completely through His body. They were more than scars.

                          He therefore rose from the grave in the same broken body inwhich He was crucified. We know that it was broken and not merely scarred for He told Thomas to thrust his hand INTO His side. This strongly suggests that His body was still broken and not merely scarred. Holes don't close up and turn into scars in three days.

                          I think that Jesus' body was transformed when He went to heaven and the holes are gone. Paul said that our bodies will be transformed "like unto His glorious body". So the holes must be gone because there is nothing "glorious" about a body that has holes in it.

                          God bless,
                          thinker
                          keep in mind... there is no mention of the stripes or the crown of thorns... but he chose to bear the scars... and forever he will bear those for all eternity... he told thomas to put his hand "in" his side... if there is nothing glorious about Jesus' scars, then please tell me what is glorious or more glorious
                          The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you,And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you,And give you peace. Numbers 6:24-26

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by thethinker View Post
                            BD,
                            What is your take on Paul's assertion that the resurrection body is a "spiritual" body? And what about Paul's statement that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"?

                            It seems to me that these statements infer that Jesus rose from the dead unglorified. I want to suggest to you that Christ's glorified body cannot have holes in it. He rose from the dead with the holes from the nails that pierced completely through His body. They were more than scars.

                            He therefore rose from the grave in the same broken body inwhich He was crucified. We know that it was broken and not merely scarred for He told Thomas to thrust his hand INTO His side. This strongly suggests that His body was still broken and not merely scarred. Holes don't close up and turn into scars in three days.



                            God bless,
                            thinker

                            Sorry, but I find what you say in your post .....Holes don't close up and turn into scars in three days....rather funny. We're talking about a risen Lord, with a glorified body, there's nothing "normal" about that...so why can't it be "normal" for Him to have scars after 3 days. As God, I think He can do just about anything He likes. You can't restrict Him to "human" normality.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by timmyb View Post
                              keep in mind... there is no mention of the stripes or the crown of thorns... but he chose to bear the scars... and forever he will bear those for all eternity... he told thomas to put his hand "in" his side... if there is nothing glorious about Jesus' scars, then please tell me what is glorious or more glorious
                              Brother Timmy,
                              So there is no mention of the stripes and the punctures from the crown. What does that prove? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that when our Lord arose He still had the stripes on His body and the punctures on His brow.

                              Jesus told Thomas to "thrust" his hand into His side. His body still had the holes. Therefore, His body was STILL BROKEN. So it goes without saying that Jesus retained all other disfigurements as well, stripes and all.

                              Your solution that Jesus "chose" to keep some of the physical evidence of His resurrection and discard other evidence may suggest tampering with the evidence.

                              Jesus had to rise from the dead in the same body untampered in order to prove that He was indeed the same Jesus. But He was glorified on the way up to heaven. And He returns glorified in a body so glorious that Paul was blinded when traveling the road to Damascus!

                              Blessings to you and your household,
                              thinker

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