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  • Is It A Sin ?

    I see that question everywhere.

    "Is it a Sin to do this?"

    Well?

    It could be a sin
    Do you think its is?
    Well Then. it It is a sin

    Someone asked Is it a Sin to Drink "Red Bull"?

    I had to Laugh at that one

    I mean Come On!

    If we are Christians we are Free! We want to do good.

    Here is a Quote from my newest Favorite Bible teacher

    Do you know why most Christians don’t get any better or why you don’t get any better? It’s because you’re doing it wrong, dummy! You are obsessed with sin and your faith has become another “system of laws” whereby you feel guilty and try and try and try to do better. It doesn’t work, never has worked, and never will work. Only really shallow people keep doing the same thing over and over again with the same result, thinking that the next time the result will be different.
    So stop it.
    You’re just making a mess out of it. People get better by obsessing on Jesus and his love…not by obsessing on their own sin and disobedience. That’s what the cross is about, to wit, a covering for sin. So that’s not the issue anymore. Not only that, the imputation of Christ’s righteousness to our account is a gift beyond measure assuring that God’s anger will never be directed at us again.
    And, by the way, an obsession with sin may be the greatest form of pride. Frankly, it is quite narcissistic. (If you’re going to get neurotic on me, that’s a good place to start.)
    So, not only does the Christian get three free sins…Christians get unlimited free sins! (Free to us because they are all forgiven…but not free to God.) And, not only that, I don’t know a better way to get people thinking about God’s unbelievable love and grace than by granting them what he has already granted. The gift one receives along with “free sins” is the gift of an unbelievable, amazing and surprising faithfulness.
    Now Donn't get him wrong (like I did at 1st)
    He is Not saying we are to go out and Sin. Cause as Crhistians we would not want to do that...I think Thats his Point...

    I don't know how to explain it
    I Don't have the gift of teaching
    But I do care bout Folks
    and want them all to relize we are forgiven

    If you wanna check out this Bible teachers stuff go Here

    http://Keylife.org
    and here
    http://stevebrownetc.com/
    With Love In Christ
    Brother Ken

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    Shalom Brother Ken,

    I think we are simply misunderstanding the question they ask.

    Here is the answer:

    1 Corinthians 6

    12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be enslaved by anything.
    ~~In Messiah,
    Vickilynn
    Micah 6:8

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vickilynn View Post
      Shalom Brother Ken,

      I think we are simply misunderstanding the question they ask.

      Here is the answer:

      1 Corinthians 6

      12 "All things are lawful for me," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be enslaved by anything.

      Hiya Vicki

      So,
      As Christians these things are no longer Sins?
      Because all things are Lawful
      Of Course as Christians we want to Do What Is Good and what is Right
      But we Don't need to obsessed with every tiny little thing
      I know there is a Battle and we need to keep our thoughts Pure and keep our Flesh in Check and Have self control
      I try my best to do that and I pray for His Help doing that.

      There has to be a "Happy Medium" Here somewhere
      With Love In Christ
      Brother Ken

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      • #4
        There is no happy medium! It's either His way or my way.
        We all know what happens to those that are lukewarm.....
        We only have this one short life to figure it out.

        Shalom my friend,
        Tanja
        Jer 6:16 Thus says the Lord: Stand at the crossroads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way lies; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls.
        2Jn 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
        If it's not done out of unselfish love, then it's hardly righteous.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brotherken View Post
          Hiya Vicki

          So,
          As Christians these things are no longer Sins?
          Because all things are Lawful
          Of Course as Christians we want to Do What Is Good and what is Right
          But we Don't need to obsessed with every tiny little thing
          I know there is a Battle and we need to keep our thoughts Pure and keep our Flesh in Check and Have self control
          I try my best to do that and I pray for His Help doing that.

          There has to be a "Happy Medium" Here somewhere
          It's called balance Ken. We don't allow any ordinary thing to become our master. Let us not be addicted to red bull. But we can use it in moderation.

          Of course, I would also add not to use it if it is unhealthy.
          Matt 9:13
          13 "But go and learn what this means: ' I DESIRE COMPASSION,AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
          NASU

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brotherken View Post
            Hiya Vicki
            Shalom Ken, Hiya back!!!

            Hey, my name is Vickilynn, but my family in Messiah calls me VL. Thanks!

            So,
            As Christians these things are no longer Sins?
            And what "these things" specifically are you talking about?
            Your OP was very general.

            If you are talking about something specific, let's look at it in the WORD and see if it is a sin or not.

            And I believe that we SHOULD be concerned with living right before the L-rd. I believe that is a good use of our time and effort.
            ~~In Messiah,
            Vickilynn
            Micah 6:8

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jesusinmyheart View Post
              There is no happy medium! It's either His way or my way.
              We all know what happens to those that are lukewarm.....
              We only have this one short life to figure it out.

              Shalom my friend,
              Tanja
              Yeah, They Get spit out

              But "all things are Lawful"

              What I meant by "Happy medium" was That we don't have to be obsessed with every Letter of the Law any more.
              While we Try to do what is right.

              It doesn't work

              We have Jesus

              He did the work for us
              With Love In Christ
              Brother Ken

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brother Mark View Post
                It's called balance Ken. We don't allow any ordinary thing to become our master. Let us not be addicted to red bull. But we can use it in moderation.

                Of course, I would also add not to use it if it is unhealthy.
                Brother Mark;
                I agree Moderation is the Key To Many things
                With Love In Christ
                Brother Ken

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Brotherken View Post
                  Yeah, They Get spit out

                  But "all things are Lawful"

                  What I meant by "Happy medium" was That we don't have to be obsessed with every Letter of the Law any more.
                  While we Try to do what is right.

                  It doesn't work

                  We have Jesus

                  He did the work for us
                  Shalom Ken,

                  Is murder lawful?
                  ~~In Messiah,
                  Vickilynn
                  Micah 6:8

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brother Mark View Post
                    It's called balance Ken. We don't allow any ordinary thing to become our master. Let us not be addicted to red bull. But we can use it in moderation.

                    Of course, I would also add not to use it if it is unhealthy.
                    Shalom Mark,

                    Ding ding ding ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    You win the ribbon!
                    Right on Brother!

                    Edited: and I wouldn't use it if the L-rd convicted me NOT to use it. I must obey Him.
                    ~~In Messiah,
                    Vickilynn
                    Micah 6:8

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                    • #11
                      [quote=Vickilynn;1382468]Shalom Ken, Hiya back!!!

                      Hey, my name is Vickilynn, but my family in Messiah calls me VL. Thanks!

                      And what "these things" specifically are you talking about?
                      Your OP was very general.

                      If you are talking about something specific, let's look at it in the WORD and see if it is a sin or not.

                      And I believe that we SHOULD be concerned with living right before the L-rd. I believe that is a good use of our time and effort.[/quote]

                      VL
                      I Agree and I think we know and the Holy sprit tells what is Right and Good.

                      I just worry that some people are beating them selfs up.
                      And others are trying to do it all under there own power (like I was)

                      By "These things" I meant every thing

                      What was meant by "All things are Lawful"?

                      They are no longer sins?
                      With Love In Christ
                      Brother Ken

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                      • #12
                        [quote=Brotherken;1382485]
                        Originally posted by Vickilynn View Post
                        Shalom Ken, Hiya back!!!

                        Hey, my name is Vickilynn, but my family in Messiah calls me VL. Thanks!

                        And what "these things" specifically are you talking about?
                        Your OP was very general.

                        If you are talking about something specific, let's look at it in the WORD and see if it is a sin or not.

                        And I believe that we SHOULD be concerned with living right before the L-rd. I believe that is a good use of our time and effort.[/quote]


                        I Agree and I think we know and the Holy sprit tells what is Right and Good.

                        I just worry that some people are beating them selfs up.
                        And others are trying to do it all under there own power (like I was)
                        By "These things" I meant every thing

                        What was meant by "All things are Lawful"?

                        They are no longer sins?
                        Shalom Brother Ken,

                        No, not everything is no longer sin.
                        Sin remains sin.
                        That's why I asked you if you believe that "murder" is now lawful?
                        It's not.


                        I posted that verse and you picked it up and ran with it, but I feel it is being misused. The things that are "lawful" now are the things of personal conviction, not the things that G-d has set down as sins, such as murder.

                        You see the difference? Murder is still sin. Going to church on Sunday is not.
                        ~~In Messiah,
                        Vickilynn
                        Micah 6:8

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                        • #13
                          [quote=Vickilynn;1382489]
                          Originally posted by Brotherken View Post

                          Shalom Brother Ken,

                          No, not everything is no longer sin.
                          Sin remains sin.
                          That's why I asked you if you believe that "murder" is now lawful?
                          It's not.

                          I posted that verse and you picked it up and ran with it, but I feel it is being misused. The things that are "lawful" now are the things of personal conviction, not the things that G-d has set down as sins, such as murder.

                          You see the difference? Murder is still sin. Going to church on Sunday is not.
                          Ok VL

                          Point taken and Understood.
                          Thank you for that. I was misunderstanding that passage I suppose

                          Not That I would have committed Murder Because I thought it was lawful for me.

                          I Know wrong from right
                          It is written on my heart.
                          With Love In Christ
                          Brother Ken

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                          • #14
                            I find that it is very helpful to consider verses like this in their context. I think Paul's comments about all things being lawful are specifically in reference to foods and not intended to be applied to other things such as immorality. The reason is that immediately prior to making that comment, he had just told the Corinthians that immoral behavior would keep people from inheriting the kingdom of heaven. This passage cannot be used to suggest (for example) that thievery is lawful for Christians.
                            1 Cor 6:9-20
                            9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

                            12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.

                            15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For "the two," He says, "shall become one flesh." 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

                            18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
                            Paul repeats the refrain a few chapters later. In this context it becomes even more clear that he is talking about foods:
                            1 Cor 10:23-33

                            All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. 24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's well-being.

                            25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake; 26 for "the earth is the LORD's, and all its fullness."

                            27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience' sake. 28 But if anyone says to you, "This was offered to idols," do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience' sake; for "the earth is the LORD's, and all its fullness." 29 "Conscience," I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man's conscience? 30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?

                            31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
                            Another passage that might help with understanding how the law is to be understood for Christians is this one:
                            1 Tim 1:5-11
                            5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith, 6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.

                            8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.
                            In another place, Paul said, "you are not under law but under grace." People often will misinterpret that to say a believer isn't under any kind of Biblical requirement to live a godly life, but the context of that verse tells us the opposite. Romans 6 is all about the believer's obligation to live a godly rather than a sinful life. Because we are under grace and not under law, we CAN and are EXPECTED to live a godly life. To be 'under law' as Paul meant it in that verse is to be in a continual, losing battle against sin. He talks about that in Romans 7. To be under grace is to be empowered because of the death of Christ for our sins and because we have the Holy Spirit. He talks about that in Romans 6 and 8.

                            But RED BULL?? Yeah. It's lawful. For you. The stuff would probably be the death of me!
                            Love In Christ,
                            Tanya






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                            • #15
                              [quote=Brotherken;1382498]
                              Originally posted by Vickilynn View Post

                              Ok VL

                              Point taken and Understood.
                              Thank you for that. I was misunderstanding that passage I suppose

                              Not That I would have committed Murder Because I thought it was lawful for me.

                              I Know wrong from right
                              It is written on my heart.
                              Shalom Brother Ken,

                              Amen, the Holy Spirit will lead you and tell you wrong form right.
                              And, as I posted in another thread, the L-rd is faithful and just to forgive us. Your tender heart blesses me!!

                              1 John 1:
                              8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
                              ~~In Messiah,
                              Vickilynn
                              Micah 6:8

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